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9:12PM EDT October 7. 2012 - WASHINGTON — The nation's top drug and gun enforcement agencies do not track how often they give their informants permission to break the law on the government's behalf.

U.S. Justice Department rules put strict limits on when and how agents at the FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives can authorize their informants — often drawn from the ranks of the criminals they are investigating — to commit a crime. But both the ATF and DEA acknowledged, in response to open-records requests and in written statements, that they do not track how often such permission is given.

That routine, if controversial, tactic has come under renewed scrutiny in the wake of the bungled "Fast and Furious" gun-trafficking investigation, which allowed 2,000 weapons to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels and other criminals. A report by the Justice Department's Inspector General found that ATF agents failed to get authorization from their superiors before they allowed gun dealers to sell weapons to suspected cartel operatives.

The report, delivered in September, is the latest internal probe to find agents ignoring the rules. And the department continues to face accusations that its agents overlook crimes by their informants, including one case this year involving an alleged Boston mob captain who was working for the FBI.

"The way we use confidential informants is a huge aspect of the daily operation and also the legitimacy of the criminal justice system," said Alexandra Natapoff, a professor at Loyola Law School Los Angeles. "It's insane that even the law enforcement agencies that actually carry out this policy may not always know how their operatives are doing it."

The ATF and DEA said in written statements that they are "in compliance'' with the rules for using informants, and that information about crimes by individual informants is "collected at both the field division and headquarters levels." The rules do not require the agencies to tally authorizations to engage in what the department calls "otherwise illegal activity" to determine how often it happens.

The FBI, by comparison, is required to collect information on how often each of the bureau's 56 field offices allows informants to break the law, though the bureau would not release those figures. (The FBI initially said in response to a request by USA TODAY that it, too, had no reports that would indicate how often informants are allowed to commit crimes.)

"There has to be some new accountability," said Rep. Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., who introduced a bill last year to force federal law enforcement agencies to tell Congress about crimes by their informants. "There can be a big upside when informants are used and the FBI actually pulls bad people off the street. But no one is looking at the collateral damage."

Informants' work is a closely guarded secret, in large part because of the danger involved. But records suggest the government's network of cooperators is vast: In 2005, the DEA estimated it had 4,000 informants, and two years later the FBI said in a budget request that its agents had 15,000 more. DEA officials told the inspector general's office that "without confidential sources, the DEA could not effectively enforce the controlled substances laws of the United States."

As part of that work, agents have authorized their informants to do everything from buying and selling drugs to participating in Medicaid fraud rings. Agents are supposed to get supervisors' approval before they permit informants to commit even minor crimes; in more serious cases — involving violence or big drug shipments — they must also get permission from Justice Department lawyers.

The department tightened those rules a decade ago, after the FBI acknowledged that its agents had allowed accused Boston mobster James "Whitey" Bulger to run a crime ring responsible for extortion and murder in exchange for information about the mafia.


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The rules do not require the agencies to tally authorizations to engage in what the department calls "otherwise illegal activity" to determine how often it happens.
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It is posts like this that bring forth discussion about the ethics of law enforcement today. Specifically one such verified example of extracting information comes to mind. This misconduct is intentional. Once such example I have come into contact with in police misconduct directly via the typical law enforcement "Romeo Agent" protocol.
Shalayne Lighty is a State Police field operative instrumental in target/kill programs. Detective Lighty has been a "romeo agent" that befriends and or starts a relationship with a designated target. This agent did not receive approval from supervisors before "gas lighting" the target through means of intimidation especially with regards to sexual degradation. What is essentially sexual misconduct is actually encouraged in many ranks to gain information during routine stops as well as investigations. After breaking down the informants/targets resistances and forcing reliance on him/her, she will bring the target to a safe house. This is to further inflict trauma and increase social isolation of the target - this is the normal protocol. It is at this time that any kind of means can be used to extract information, physical/mental abuse as well as psychotronic weapons. These are being employed with increased ease due to the privacy/control of the safe house or the social isolation that law enforcement has the luxury of.
Law enforcement employs COINTELPRO tactics to give the informants/targets family/friends the impression that things are completely normal. Many times these people are not brave enough to come forward for fear of obvious retaliation or discreditation. This is especially true when a female officer intimidates a male target. Some of the trauma based control methods that someone like Detective Lighty uses are control of communication, money,rape of the target, sexual abuse as well as degradation. This routine traffic stop turned into this sort of isolated misconduct. Larger scale operation and investigations require increased safety and control for the operators.
The safe houses are always located away from the targets formal and informal support structure.(locations are known)- Trooper Lighty works closely with a small select group of law enforcement individuals that are specifically in contact with the target during this phase to assist in the operational control of the targets incoming information. This is quickly becoming the normal procedure within law enforcements investigation techniques. This effects application at all levels of interaction with the public. Trooper Lighty works directly with her family members Duane Lighty and Kelley Lighty and a small group of operatives. Duane Lighty is directly linked to the development of large field operations and enhancements with regards to law enforcement technology involving remote neural monitoring and communications that violate constitutional and civil rights. Duane Lighty has been working in technology based law enforcement kill programs with an extensive background in communication systems and has been involved in assisting remote agents in the field for possibly over two decades.
Rockwell Collins, Inc. announced it has successfully completed the acquisition of ARINC Incorporated from The Carlyle Group for $1.4 billion. The company Rockwell Collins that he is currently employed by is partially responsible for enhancement of this ALREADY DEVELOPED technology. Please read and forward this information. Duane Lighty- Duane Lighty is the current Principal Manager for Rockwell Collins, San Francisco Communications Center Location Livermore, California Industry Remote Neural Monitoring Development Aviation & Aerospace Communication advancement takes place at[tongue]lease read and forward this information. Duane Lighty (319-295-1000)  37 Peach St,Wading River, NY 11792 (209) 892-8050, SUFFOLK Phone: (631) 929-6109 Email - dlighty@hotmail.com CONTACT HIM for information on this subject. He is the Principal Manager, San Francisco Communications Center Location Livermore, California Industry Remote Neural Monitoring Development Aviation & Aerospace Communication Current Address: **** Industrial Wa Livermore Ca 94551 **** Industrial Wa Livermore Ca 94551 Current 1. Rockwell Collins. Duane Lighty has an complete knowledge and background of this anti contistutional and abusive technology. His previous work experience is extensive, including: 1. ARINC, 2. Arinc Inc, 3. U.S. Coast Guard Education 1. Olympic College • Principal Manager, San Francisco Communications Center Rockwell Collins October 2013 – Present (2 years 8 months) • Director, New York Communications Center ARINC June 2006 – October 2013 (7 years 5 months) • Director Western Region, Field Services Arinc Inc January 2002 – June 2006 (4 years 6 months) Directed the operations of Field Service sites located in geographically diverse locations, Honolulu, HI, Los Angeles, CA, Livermore, CA, San Francisco, CA and Islip, NY. • Sr. Manager, Manager Arinc Inc March 1990 – January 2002 (11 years 11 months) Various Management positions with ARINC at several locations. • Radio Operator Arinc Inc February 1985 – March 1990 (5 years 2 months) • Radioman (RM) U.S. Coast Guard January 1980 – July 1984 (4 years 7 months) E-1 – E-6, RM served in Kodiak AK, Honolulu HI, Seattle WA and San Francisco CA. Skills • Aviation • Aerospace • Systems Engineering • Earned Value Management • Aircraft • Avionics • DoD • Defense • Flights • Air Force • Military • Engineering Management • Configuration Management • Commercial Aviation • Program Management Education • Olympic College Associate of Arts (A.A.), Criminal Justice/Law Enforcement Administration 1978 – 1979 • Hawaii Pacific University BSBA Groups • Aviation Professionals (160,000+ Members) • ARINC Alumni Group • Aeronautical Radio Stations Duane W Lighty age: ~57 D Lighty Related to: Wife- Kelley Lighty. Shalayne Lighty-(State Trooper, currently employed at Shire Pharmaceuticals) Shalayne Lighty has been instrumental in law enforcement Kill programs across the country. It is unknown how many people she has harmed via psychotronic weapons. Last known addresses: Sylvia St, Lexington, MA and Fair Oaks, California.

Previous Addresses: 431 Roadrunner Dr, Patterson, CA 95363,
 965 Waylinn Ln #139, Tracy, CA 95376,
 2216 Sudbury Ct, Tracy, CA 95376,
 2182 Glenfield Rd, Annapolis, MD 21401,
 2668 Waiwai Loop #C203, Honolulu, HI 96819,
 2069 California Ave, Wahiawa, HI 96786,
 2069 California Ave #1, Wahiawa, HI 96786,
 2069 California Ave #11A, Wahiawa, HI 96786

Thank you for bringing this to the peoples attention. Remember that there are always going to be difficult decisions within interpreting released information with regards to law enforcement and it misconduct with regards to its abuses. It is important to just follow the facts of the individual case.

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I read the above reply and saw the posted names and recognized them. They are connected to a safe house. Shalayne N. Lighty has lived in the house. She engaged in illegal torture on at least one individual for the purposes of a kill/suppression law enforcement operation.

  This safe house is used via a law enforcement kill/suppression program with targets being housed and abused in the apartments illegally. The detectives involved were listed in the above reply.

  31 congress street Milford Ma is a secure location, that was deemed suitable for isolating targets, agents or other persons perceived as being targeted for elimination and or intimidation tactics to take place. It became known as the "Milford Mortuary".

  The house was tightly controlled with agents living inside torturing targets through the year 2009 and on to my knowledge. It is unknown if the safe house was used for any other purposes. It appears as though it was set up with direct purpose to torture people targeted by this program. It is likely that it is still being used today for this objective.

  Information was gathered directly from a detective working in the building that it may be possible that there are buried bodies in the basement. It is not known if this was an intimidation tactic by the detective to suppress an information leak. 

 I have found additional information on this property and its owner. Darn Properties, LLC owns this property as well as 9 other properties that are being used as safe houses. Darn Properties, LLC is located in Milford, MA 01757 at 206 Main St. The owners name is Moshe Attias. Detective Attias contact number is 508-320-6262. 

  This organization primarily operates in the Nonresidential Building Operators business / industry within the Real Estate sector. Darn Properties is estimated to generate $280,000 in annual revenues, and employs approximately 3 people at this single location. Its SIC Code is 6512, Operators of Nonresidential Buildings. Its NAICS Code is 531312, Nonresidential Property Managers.

   I have included below verified information derived from the Milford Assessor's Office located at 52 Main Street Milford, MA 01757 Phone: (508) 634-2306 of these property ownership records.

  Built in 1880, this property was last sold for $220,200 in 2011 and currently has an estimated value of $280,345. The median price for this area is 315000. The 6 assigned schools for this property are located in Milford School District. There are currently 1,594 similar properties for sale within 10-mile radius, ranging from $140,400 - $399,900. I have extensive information that I will be releasing here and in the members section with regards to this kill/suppression program in the near future.  8.2.PNG

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Update: Safe House 

A safe house associated with Shalayne N. Lighty & other Agents has recently been released by Ms. Lighty via direct communication. This safe house was used via a law enforcement kill/suppression program with targets being housed and entrained in the apartments illegally and without consent.

The agents involved were listed in the above reply.

This safe house was used via a
law enforcement kill/suppression program during induction through the years 2009-2010 with targets being housed and abused in the apartments illegally. The detectives involved were listed in the above reply.

This house was the site of "targeted arson " conducted by a team of agents that were living in the building and directed by Agent Shalayne N. Lighty with herself participating. This agent set the third floor on fire as a means of subterfuge against it's owners, the infamous " Pino Brothers " as relayed to me by Ms. Lighty directly to stop there connections with an " unknown criminal organization ".

This home was used as a " cool off " and initial contact safe house to meet soon to be newly investigated targets in 2009.

The home was dubbed " One Night in Heaven " by the agent team.

The access code for this safe house was ~ " the birds are angry " as given to me directly by Shalayne N. Lighty.

Shalayne N. Lighty 
67 Pearl St # 2
Somerville, MA 02145
(916) 832-0664

I will update this section further with other agent names and to describe the methods and tactics used during the time of this homes occupation by these undercover agents as soon as I receive more information from my source Shalayne N. Lighty.

I have extensive information that I will be releasing here and in the members section with regards to this kill/suppression program in the near future on this safe house and it's connection to long island New York.

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Each time I log in and read this I am angered. I have to call bullshit. Whatever limits or restrictions the DOJ THINKs they have implemented, fly out the window once on the streets. No Rules apply! And regardless if a dirt bag informant has been given authorization or not. They are criminals whom have made a deal to save their own ass. And will bury anyone in the process to do so. They are NOT watched,kept track off. And as the article said, their own illegal activities are overlooked. Heaven help you if you piss one off, you then become the target based off lies. Now don't misunderstand me, I'm not against c.I.'s altogether. I'm sure their shenanigans have helped take criminals off the streets. But just as the article says, No one is looking at the collateral damage. And let me tell you, it's extensive. I know,because I am that collateral damage. Worse yet. Its ongoing. To include corruption into every facet of authority in the county ,literally.
You think of this sort of think in large cities. The streets of Hollywood. Back alleys of Las Vagas. I'm here to tell you it has spread to small town America of Kansas.
I know. I am that collateral damage.
I am the daughter of a 3 tour Viet Nam vet. I am the mother of a United States Marine. But because I stood up for myself,I found myself on a terrorist watch list. Not by just the FBI, but the DOJ and Interpol to boot. I mean really! Who the he'll do they think I am! I am their collateral damage.
I was raised with the belief and instilled it in all 3 of my grown boys throughout their lives, if you think you can't come to me. Find a cop. That's what they are there for. They Wil always help. I have had that ingrained belief not only shattered but then ripped from me.
The extent of a criminal record for me contained a no seatbelt ticket. That's no longer the case. My email is constantly hacked. God knows what they are doing in my name. Moving completely out of the county has done no good.
My story is on going and extensive enough that I am no writer. I wouldn't know where to begin to put it in words.
Simply...I am the collateral damage.
And I don't know if I'll ever make it back to having the faith and belief in not just our law enforcement but our judicial system as well.
It is said in the article that an informants work is a closely guarded secret. Well I know! And the things that have been done to me, no one,no one should have to go through. And to say "They are in compliance" No, it makes you an ACCOMPLICE.
I know! For I am your collateral damage.

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Update: The methods and tactics used during the time of these home's occupation by these undercover agents were received from my source and deprogrammer/reprogrammer Shalayne N. Lighty.

I have extensive information that I will be releasing here and in the members section with regards to this kill/suppression communication program in the near future on a FULL NETWORK of safe house's and it's connection to Montauk, long island New York.

The Montauk Safe houses were used with the intent of supporting black ops projects from the area of Montauk New York.

 37 Peach St Wading River, NY 11792 Was used to move selected projects to during times of greater traffic and commerce from the network of safe houses on the East coast.

This home was maintained by Duane Lighty. Duane has been instrumental in the projects development.

I have received detailed information from Duane Lighty concerning these communication projects since 2009. 

The methods used have been employed for decades. I will continue to compile and release information as soon as get an update.


Agents were placed in areas on the East coast during 2009 to intersect with people selected prior during a long induction period.

Some people selected were found to have " communicator potential ".

This communication potential was deemed fit to be enhanced through ' entrainment ' condensed from Operation Green Star and it's Green Star programming. 

Agent Shalayne N. Lighty was in charge of this network of safe houses with Duane Lighty leading a team of entrainment agents. The agents had the responsibility of moving, feeding and entraining the selected people. 

Operation Midnight Climax techniques were also replicated with a focus on scripting with minimal damage to the selected person to be programmed. This was seen as an improvement to this projects focus as in the past " collateral damage " of project assets occurred.

Duane Lighty aka Dr. Zimmerman has extensive project information that was relayed directly. Below listed is his extensive training.

Rockwell Collins Principal Manager, San Francisco Communications Center Started Oct 2013

Rockwell Collins (Arinc) Started Oct 2013

Director, San Francisco Communications Center Aviation & Aerospace Started Jun 2006 and ended Oct 2013

ARINC Director, New York Communications Center Started Jan 2002 and ended Jun 2006

Arinc Inc Director Western Region, Field Services

Arinc Inc Sr. Manager, Manager Started Mar 1990 and ended Jan 2002

Arinc Inc Radio Operator Started Feb 1985 and ended Mar 1990

U.S. Coast Guard Radioman (RM) Started Jan 1980 and ended Jul 1984

I have extensive information that I will be releasing here and in the members section with regards to this kill/suppression / communications program in the near future on this safe house network and it's connection to long island New York Montauk.

Duane " Dr. Zimmerman " Lighty and Green Star Programmer Shalayne N. Lighty revealed their techniques directly.

Human trafficking of selected people is used after induction indoctrination.

This type of Human trafficking is cultivated to make people " hostile recruits " to be used for the purposes that are later or prior designated to gain information through their indoctrination period. 

One year of induction was performed prior to intersection on the people being entrained and trafficked to other organizations or other handlers that would further use these people for intelligence gathering purposes.

The entrainment took approximately an average of 2 - 5 years for high level clearance operations. after which the ' entrained ' person was sent to complete a counter intelligence psychological operation. Some are being used for further entrainment claiming to receive preferential treatment if they decide to remain loyal to their handlers and agents.  


Duane Lighty was involved with designing symbiotic relationship projects between animals and humans for the development of ' service dog experiments ' and future deployment of project animals.

Dogs were tortured and medical care was not given to these animals when needed although insurance was provided and regular check ups to the animals were provided for research purposes only.

It was frowned upon that these animals were not brought to the veterinarian on a scheduled basis. They were used for purposes to be studied only and not receive treatment. Records were kept of these animals and transposed to another organization. The process was to put the dog down in the safe houses.

The specific aim of the back ops funded research program was to control the behavior of a dog and as a human facilitator, in " the field ", by means of remotely triggering the animals with electrical stimulation of the brain. The dogs were tortured and separated from their owners. After return, the ' animal and human teams ' were studied under stress to measure increased performance.

This program is still active and being used globally. It is being used to set targets up for espionage and treason as well as recruitment. This ' recruitment ' is a " hostile recruitment ".

The name " Zimmerman " was used to describe his supervision over the many Montauk New York experiments on animals and human interaction.

I will post when I receive more information from my compiled information and speak to my sources.


Robert Carrier
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