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Registered: 02/08/11
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I don't want folks to me mislead, I have a lot of respect for law enforcement so I'm not saying everyone involved is corrupt. I do understand that most hard working folks & upper class folks will support law enforcement & informants, but they will never read about cases concerning innocent people that were set-up or people that had no criminal record until State & Federal informants & corrupt State & Federal agents set-up innocent people like like Anthony Smith. Well get to that soon.

I know some people are easy. Some people are desperate for the money, as long as most people are living comfortable. It's more money for the State & Federal government to split. No all State & Federal are corrupt, but that 1% or 2% out of 10% is very dangerous & have influence over a lot of folks that's not in that 1% to 2% that will hide the fact that they're corrupt.  

I wonder how police officers that work overtime with lil' vacation time & living with debt. that wanna see their children go to a good school feel about low life GED having informants that make very large amounts of money? More money than they make in a year with the overtime.


It's 2014 Spring & Summer time coming up so I'm sure the federal government will want to supply their federal informants with the best Marijuana like some of that Red Dragon, Snowcap, Larry OG, Super Blue Dream & Julius Caesar. Not to mention the best meth, OxyContin, Xanax, Heroin & coke, the best Heroin & coke could get a federal informant next to someone running a gambling operation or running guns, counterfeit money, credit card scams, car theft ring. Anything for the federal informant to step in & take over the operation themselves.
 

First, Shanton "Shan" Cassell & Keith Bumbers aren't highly intelligent & are not the hardest that come off the streets of Cleveland. Hell, they're not even careful. They just beef with people broker than they are that don't drive & really don't even know they're lying on them are beefing with them. The federal resources is something else altogether something else.

Keith Bumbers & Shanton [Shan] Smith or Shan Cassell was arrested back in 2000 for speeding with over 300 pounds of Marijuana.

The class of 1991-1993 at Shaw High school & Cleveland Heights High school may remember Shanton [Shan] Smith who grew up over off of Noble Rd until he moved to Savanna in [E.C.] East Cleveland. Keith Bombers grew up in Cleveland Heights off of Ceder on Kildare Rd.. I don't respect Keith, T-Ray back stabbing ass, Ed, Mike or his brother.


If Keith Bumbers is what he claims to be & Anthony Smith is calling Keith Bumbers & Shanton "Shan" Cassell federal informants than want Keith & Shan post on youtube what he so-called supposedly could do to Anthony Smith & put it on this website after they post it on Facebook? People post on World Star Hip-Hop all the time. Anthony Smith don't speak to Keith or Shan, never thought about Keith or Shan. Keith Bumbers is not a relative of Anthony Smith & they never hug with each other. They went to Jr. high school together, that's it! How can Anthony Smith be jealous about people he don't speak to or see to the point he invent all this? Was he calling them federal informants in the 90's? No! Was white poeple involved in the 90's? No!   

They talk that bullshit like prove they informants informants. There was no proof, no court records that Jerrell Bray worked as a DEA informant until he was caught & put into the papers after setting up 19 people, the courts had to release all 19 people. Google Jerrell Bray DEA informant & read the news paper articles following his trial & the DEA agent Lucas that helped Bray frame people.

http://truthinjustice.org/lee-lucas2.htm

Google Andrew Chambers the million dollar DEA informant that worked in multiple states. How much evidence did people have that he was a DEA informant? Check any state Andrew Chambers hustled & operated in. How many court documents did people have of Andrew Chambers working as a DEA informant & proof that he put people in prison? None! Not until he got caught & put into the papers. Check with anybody Andrew Chambers put on. What you think Andrew Chambers made all that dough & didn't invest in small businesses or real estate?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/interviews/chambers.html


We know without a doubt that Shan was out of prison before he was suppose to be out of prison. We are 100% on this. What happened to the gun charge Shan?  Even if Shanton had filed for a judicial early release, he wouldn't be out after only serving a year & a half on a 5 year mandatory sentence. Shan may put niggas on in Ohio, but that's because he work out of state. Shan could go from any state of Ohio, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, Texas, Cali, New York, DC, PA, Illinois, Idaho, Tennessee, Georgia, when ever he feel like it.

I'm not mentioning this with the hopes somebody do something to Shan. CAN'T NOBODY STOP THE WEED MAN! YOU KNOW HOW MANY WHITE KIDS FROM THE SUBURB SMOKE ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS? EVEN THE WHITE BOYS THAT STAY IN THE GYM BLOW GOOD WEED! THE PILLS & OTHER SHIT IS JUST MORE MONEY. I'm mentioning this so innocent people want be set-up. Besides, it's not like Shan could be caught. Shan could go from any state of Ohio, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, Texas, Cali, New York, DC, PA, Illinois when ever he feel like it.To work as a government informant no experience or education is desired all you have to know is good dope from bad dope, stay popular so you can move weight & get next to the right people involved in illegal gambling, guns, prostitution, counterfeit money, car theft rings & chop shop. All the cars they drive around in they just people trying to get through traffic until the free press circulate. They ant illustrious they informants looking for free press.

If you read long enough you will notice that there are state & federal law enforcement agents, Informants & sub informants mentioned that belong to the Freemasons, Order of the Eastern Star Organizations. It's a member of the Alpha Kappas Alpha sorority mentioned & I know these organizations will protect their members because these people pay to be vouched for, like a Mega Church would protect the richest donators before they find out that these members are not what they seem. When u talk about Mega Churches in Cleveland, Ohio that means you're talking about  the Word Church. EVERYBODY LOVE MONEY OR TO KNOW SOMEONE WITH MONEY IN THE HOPES THEY CAN MAKE SOME MONEY! I'm sure the United National Supreme Council, Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, Freemasons of the World, 33rd and Last Degree and Order of Eastern Star, Inc. would disagree. African American Freemasons & Order of the Eastern Star organizations power is in their numbers, not in their wealth. Each state where black freemasons have large numbers they don't even make up 1% of that state wealth or 1% of the largest charity donations.

WE ARE DEALING WITH PROFESSIONAL LIARS! 

I know this maybe too long for some folks to read, keep in mind, it's about corruption not entertainment. We are talking about Whole sale, smugglers & distributors. I know mentioning corruption involving prestigious organizations that can reach a lot of nationalities will create a defense from those organizations, especially from Federal & State, but also quicker from the Federal informants they protect & those helping them.
By now the federal informants know the State & Federal government will conceal a lot of things in order to keep their cover, even murder.

To run an operation like this certain parties in the federal government need smoke & mirrors so they hire out & use contractors with federal jurisdiction, but they will stay part of the non-executive branch. You can't trace them & if you do it want lead back to certain parties in government.

Contractors are mostly ex-federal agents, ex-military & lawyers. That's why the operation is so successful because it's hard to trace.

There are many that try to confuse the eye to control your understanding.
             
I wonder if the U.S. Representatives that sponsor the H.R. 3228: Confidential Informant Accountability Act of 2011 would approve of a cover-up after agents are found to be corrupt? Would U.S. Representatives try & help cover up the corruption?

The DEA Lacks an Effective and Accurate Confidential Source Payment System.

The DEA is required by the Attorney General Guidelines to establish accounting and reconciliation procedures that reflect monies paid to confidential sources. Our audit identified deficiencies in the DEA’s accounting and reconciliation of confidential source payments that led us to conclude that the DEA does not have an effective confidential source payment tracking system. Specifically, we found deficiencies with the accounting and monitoring of calendar year and lifetime payments, problems with the systems used to account for confidential source payments, and control breakdowns that indicate closer supervisory oversight of confidential source payments is needed.

Do you think ex-military narcotics officers, drug task force, DEA, FBI & CIA agents spend years studying in college to successfully finish all phases of the rigorous in-depth hiring process all so that a high school drop out, drug user, paid informant can make hundreds of thousands of dollars, in some cases even millions of dollars on the street without them getting their cut? Bull! The reason they never really get caught is because no ex-military, narcotics officers, drug task force, DEA, FBI or CIA agent is interested in being a ghetto celebrity, a living legend on the streets.  They're human, what would you do? Some ant Scottish Rite Freemasons, some ant racist. Some  have problems in their family, but they all wanna retire early, retire debt free with a large credit score. This is not movie, it's not meant to be exciting. It involve black Ops. CIA & the FBI working for decades in the dope game one. The dope game is  one of the most lucrative American resources in history. Whole sale, smugglers & distributors. Black Ops, CIA & the FBI feel they have more experience than politicians so they feel they're smarter than politicians. They can manipulate most local law enforcement, the U.S. Marshals, DEA & most judges if they wanted to, but it would leave to much of a paper trail. Most politicians ducked the war so most black ops, CIA & the FBI feel superior. So a lot of them don't have informants they have captains, skippers, capo's & soldiers & they let their capo's have soldiers or sub-informants. So on the street they appear legit with small business & the whole nine. People would like to believe informants don't commit murders, they only set-up competition to be arrested & than take over that spot, but the informant program is not watched as closely as America thinks & when you give an informants that much power they think they're above the law because they work with law enforcement & high ranking law enforcement, make a lot of money with law enforcement & high ranking law enforcement, party with law enforcement, learn from & teach law enforcement & spend a lot of quality time with law enforcement & high ranking law enforcement agents. Some very special quality time, if you know what I mean. So who knows.

I don't care what anybody say, it maybe invisible to the public, but the use of informants is everywhere in the U.S. justice system. Fact are wrong when people talk about informant. The government negotiates thousands of deals with criminal offenders in which suspects can avoid arrest or punishment in exchange for not info, but intell to the streets & a avenue to hustle & become an employee to the U.S. justice system. Remember, informants have lives. Informants aren't out there on the street everyday looking for someone to snitch on. Informants are in relationships, some have kids & they wanna see their kids do the right thing like everybody else. Informants travel with family & friends. Hell, they can write their trips off as tax purposes because they can always say they met someone that's a potential client. Some informants take classes & with the backing of a agent from State or federal they can register for whatever they want because they can afford it tuition. Informants have  friends & sub informants they have to over see. Some informants have small businesses they wanna see flourish. Most importantly, informants have to use strategy when setting up someone so it want blow their cover. It's not like informants make a deal & that person get arrested. Informants can work for over 15 years before they blow their cover. Save that shit for the movies!.    

Shan is a black male age 39 that may look younger than his age. Shan may have dropped out of Cleveland Heights High School or Shaw High School in 1989 or 1990. Shan may have dropped out of high school, but Shan maybe in college at the age of 40 trying to better himself, a small business owner or hustling on these streets. Yea, with a GED & a felony record the feds could get Shan back in school. After all, if you work as a snitch than at sometime you're gonna wanna better yourself. If a man was a criminal & never had a job or job skills than he's gonna try & better himself. Shan may have dropped out of school, but he's somewhat smart, some what. I'm not mentioning this with the hopes somebody do something to Shan. CAN'T NOBODY STOP THE WEED MAN! YOU KNOW HOW MANY WHITE KIDS FROM THE SUBURB SMOKE ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS? EVEN THE WHITE BOYS THAT STAY IN THE GYM BLOW GOOD WEED! THE PILLS & OTHER SHIT IS JUST MORE MONEY. I'm mentioning this so innocent people want be set-up. CONGRATS ON MAKING A SNITCH RICH!

Shanton Cassell aka "Shan" Smith knows how to steal cars. Shan is hood, but he's a character. Shan mentality is to bring everyone down to his mentality so people want judge him.

Shan took some lumps growing-up, like father, like son. Shan father, Shanton Tobey Smith, was sometime chased home by boys in the hood. I remember Shan cousin transferred to Shan school. Shan cousin knew a few people there. After school somebody tried to challenge Shan cousin they stood there starring at each other. Shan cousin looked over at Shan & Shan took off running. Nothing happened, but Shan took off running.

Growing-up Shan use to go hard on smoking pot like his father. Shan didn't have to get a job. Shan father & step mother tried to make him get a job so Shan moved in with his Grandmother & half sister on Savannah in East Cleveland.
Shan was beat-up by Mike Berry on the bus on the way to Cleveland Heights High school in front of all his friends for stealing Mike Berry father jacket out of Mike's father car.  Mike told Shan to take it off & Shan tried to play hard so Mike beat Shan up & Shan had to go to the hospital. 
Shan moved out his father house when he was around 17.
This was when he stayed with his gay cousin Daryl.

I"ll tell you what, Anthony Smith know so much about Shan being a federal informant Shan probably would go to Mike Berry & say Anthony gave him the jacket, which is bullshit. Anthony Smith isn't scared of Mike Berry, but he had nothing to do with is father stolen jacket & didn't hear about it until someone call him & told him Shan was being i the hospital. Sure Anthony Smith went looking for Mike Berry after seeing the male bitch, federal informant Shan eye, but Anthony Smith old friends told him Shan deserved it. Anthony Smith & Mike Berry have seen each other several times & always greeted each other with respect.

Shan also was beat-up in East Cleveland by boys he grew-up with & was sometime chased by East Cleveland boys after he moved to Cleveland Heights. This happened when Shan was a teenager. Shan was living with his gay cousin Darryl in East Cleveland when he was a teenager for a short time. Shan was beat-up by some E. Cleveland boys when he was hanging with his friends Kevin Hamilton & Ed (E-Man). Shan had to be rushed to the hospital again. After being rushed to the hospital Shan moved out of Darryl house. Shan moved back home & than moved in with his Grandmother.


When Shan moved in with his grandmother he was spoiled & didn't have to work. Shan could get drunk & high all day. Shan became an expert at getting high & stealing cars. Shan also owned a couple of beat-up Buick Regals & a Park Avenue, the long body kind before they shortened them. The Park Avenue was the best car he had unless he stole a new car or the government gave him a government seized car so Shan can play the role as a drug lord or car thief with a chop shop.

Shanton is not a Mastermind criminal with a high IQ. Shanton is just a federal informant so he has resources. Shan want be caught because he's a federal informant, but others that work with him will.
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Shanton lived in Cleveland Heights off of Noble Rd. on Clarence.

We know without a doubt that Shan was out of prison before he was suppose to be out of prison. We are 100% on this. What happened to the gun charge Shan? Even if Shanton had filed for a judicial early release, he wouldn't be out after only serving a year & a half on a 5 year mandatory sentence. Shan may put niggas on in Ohio, but that's because he work out of state. Shan could go from any state of Ohio, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, Texas, Cali, New York, DC, PA, Illinois when ever he feel like it.  

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A Grand Imperial Wizard, Scottish Rite Mason that work for the State or Justice Department can tell people it's snowing in July & they will feel cold.

Young folks kill us. They act as if it were them they would call their parents or call this person. When you are in custody & in Anthony Smith situation your parents could rich & belong to this frat or this soror or this organization & it's nothing they can do, but protest.

Anthony Smith was set-up by a federal informant: 
I know mentioning some of this from another website Anthony posted could get him thrown back in prison which will further take away his value in society, but it's true & should be spoke about.

HOW ANTHONY SMITH WAS SET-UP & WHY PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSE TO SEE ANTHONY AS A CRAZY MISERABLE LONER WHO'S A FANATICAL RACIST HOMELESS MAN.

If the boys at the Department of Justice are having trouble believing this the man can take a polygraph test.


[Poof of malice and the intent to oppress]
There is more to this story. Anthony Smith was subject to Outrageous Government Conduct. Anthony Smith court number A-06-259M [D.D.C. CR-98-399. The public defender who handled the case was William H. Ibbotson [512]916-5025. This case was in Texas. In Texas Anthony Smith was approached by officers, "Anthony Smith, you have an outstanding felony warrant in Arlington, Texas," the officers said. The plan clothes older white man told Anthony he was a Grand Imperial Wizard & a Scottish Rite Mason before the arrest. Don't believe me? Anthony can take a polygraph test.

Anthony had never been in Arlington Texas & never had a felony at that point & time in his life. After being held for a week that warrant moved from Arlington, Texas to Washington, DC. Anthony was taken from Houston,Texas to Austin, Texas where Anthony was isolated, never told what the felony was for & never saw an attorney for about a month. Anthony had no drugs on him & never been on medication & never told them he take or ever taken medication, but the officers told the nurse Anthony was on medication. The psychologist kept telling Anthony, "Anthony don't say anything about the Government being after you, US Marshals, Informants or helicopters.

What are you talking about? Anthony would say. "You guys obviously know something I don't, because I never mentioned anything about the Government being after me, US Marshals, informants or helicopters" Anthony said. The psychologist would tell Anthony that he was highly intelligent & shouldn't speak about the government or informants. The US Marshals picked Anthony Smith up after two months, in the US Marshals custody they fingerprinted and photographed Anthony Smith as someone named Antonione Smith a convicted felon. Anthony Smith social security card and birth certificate came up missing from the county jail.

They than took Anthony Smith to another county jail where they fingerprinted and photographed Anthony Smith again as someone named Antonione Smith after Anthony had an identity hearing the judge at the hearing said, "this is the strangest thing I ever saw in my court room." The case was dismissed. Anthony Smith was released at that time after being held for 2 months.

No apology from the United States of America council that was sitting in the court. How long does it take for fingerprints to come back?

The same thing happened to Anthony Smith in Boston, Massachusetts several months later after he left New York.

Anthony Smith was sent to a State prison on a none conviction charge. As a matter of fact, Anthony Smith wasn't even indicted on anything. Anthony Smith was basically sent to a State mental hospital, Bridgewater State Hospital, on a misdemeanor charge. Bridgewater State prison is supposably a country club State prison. Even if his experience there wasn't hostile, it was still wrong. To get out of the State Mental hospital, Anthony Smith had to write to his Public Defender, William H. Ibbotson, the attorney that handled the case in Texas. Anthony Smith had to write to him to prove he was who he said he was because all his I.D. disappeared from their position and they wanted him to say, he no longer felt the government was after him. Anthony was supposedly sent there because he was a threat to himself & others, even though he was only in lock-up for an hour & the Judge had told him he was free to go. A plan clothes white man told Anthony he had to speak to the nurse.

The nurse asked Anthony, "Anthony," "Are you suicidal?" she said.

Anthony told her "no."

The nurse asked Anthony, "Anthony do you see helicopters," she said.

"What are you talking about? No," Anthony said back to her.

"Anthony" "Do you feel the Government is after you?" she asked.

Anthony told her "no." "What are you talking about?" he said.

Again, they mentioned that first to Anthony. Anthony never mentioned anything about the government being after him. And can take a polygraph test [lie detector test] to back this up. At first, they said Anthony Smith was a threat to himself & others. They changed it to Anthony felt the Government was after him. Anthony was never a threat to himself or others before being transferred to a State prison. And they have a place in county lock-up to handle that. Anthony wasn't told he was being transferred to a State prison. He was told by the judge he was free to go. Before he was transferred to a State prison. At Bridgewater State prison Anthony Smith was involuntary committed for 6 months because they told the judge he was a threat to himself & others. Before that Anthony had not one fight or argument with staff or inmates. And Anthony never told anyone he felt suicidal or a threat to himself or others. Anthony Smith doesn't have a self-esteem problem & refuse to let spineless cowards attack his self-esteem to the point he becomes so depressed that he start to suffer from clinical depression.

The psychologist kept trying to get Anthony to say that he felt the government was after him. Again, they mentioned that first to Anthony, Anthony never mentioned anything about the government being after him.

Anthony Smith wrote to his Public Defender, William H. Ibbotson, the attorney that handled the case in Texas. Anthony Smith had to write to him to prove he was who he said he was because all his I.D. disappeared from their position and they wanted him to say, he no longer feel the government is after me.

After the letter came back form William H. Ibbotson the doctor kept telling Anthony that he was getting better & that the medication was working. Anthony had secretly stopped taking his medication 3 months prior after he started experiencing side affects. After 6 months Anthony Smith was released. No one felt he belonged there, not some members of staff or the inmates.

Note: It's more here to be told that was said by staff to Anthony, but it would take too long to cover the whole 6 months. Some of the information is damaging to staff & the judge. I'm sure Anthony would take a polygraph test. 

Of course there's the rumors. We can kill the gay or bisexual rumors because Anthony Smith has never had any sexual contact with a man in his life & you could put Anthony under the heat, I'm talking lie detector test. I'm talking live in front of the American people. Without the Jerry Springer attention. What did they call Anthony Smith in county & State prison? A gentleman & a scholar. Anthony Smith was regarded as a man with a very high IQ by most inmates & staff that didn't hate on Anthony. Even the inmates that hated Anthony Smith never touched Anthony Smith, unless it was a hand shake. The one Asian staff member thought she could play childish games with Anthony once asking Anthony to count to 100 by 7. She just met Anthony & didn't know. Now even if you don't know the Caucasian Alpha male beer party trick, once you count past 14 you should know you went over 10, therefor you can't can't count over 100 by 7. So Anthony played with her mind because she was trying to play with Anthony intelligence. They never saw each other again. Anthony read her from the first moment she walked through the door.

Anthony Smith went to trail for two cases against him. Anthony refused any deals, fired his public defender during preliminary hearings, in court. The next court date was Anthony trial date Anthony represented himself & won both cases at trail. I think that's why certain people that work for the federal government, the federal informant, his family members & his ex-girlfriend don't want people to speak to Anthony. They want people to have a very bad perception so people see Anthony as they want people to see him. They want a public court without Anthony being able to respond or defend himself.

A Grand Imperial Wizard, Scottish Rite Mason that work for the State or Justice Department can tell people it's snowing in July & they will feel cold. Sure, it's a lot of Caucasians that will think it's awesome the way Anthony Smith was set-up. Sure, it's a lot of Caucasians that think it's awesome to stalk a black men around while using other black men to make money while hiding behind state or federal power.

They used & manipulated Shriner lodges & United Grand Lodges by appearing honorable. Yes, racist or not, a racist white man can walk into any Shriner lodge & Grand lodge & speak to honorable Shriners brothers of the Scottish & York Rite masons & the other lodges will fall in line, active members & inactive members. It doesn't matter whether their black, white, asian, latino, Indian or Middle Eastern Freemasons, or if they belong to any other ethnic group that have a United Grand Lodge.

They ruined opportunity Anthony Smith was creating for himself in 2004-2005 in Cali. We are talking a definite 6 to 7 figure deal that had major potential for growth to the 8 to 9 figures. Honestly you can't put a number one this. The funny thing is that it was about the dollar sign & the check amount for Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith did a tremendous amount of research & sacrificed a lot. Regardless of slogans about America being the land of opportunity it's almost impossible to earn your way out of poverty in America, but again for Anthony Smith this wasn't about dollars & cents. This is something hard for certain members of Anthony Smith family to understand because they don't know him & they're simple minded folks & just work regular jobs & just want their children to work regular jobs.

To kill the rumors.
I think it's pretty pathetic for them to use university security & college students to spread around that Anthony Smith use college campuses like a hotel. Is that the best they can do to get people not to speak to Anthony Smith? I guess they have very good reason to try & get people not to speak to Anthony Smith.

Anthony Smith has never had sexual contact with another man in his life & is not gay or a bisexual & never have been. But you know what? People act like they can attach that rumor to people to bring them down & make people feel uncomfortable being around that person, as if being bisexual, gay or a lesbian is a disease. People try to put that rumor on a lot of famous & not so famous people. Recently the rumor was put on Matt Damon & Ben Affleck, it's been attached to Russell Simmons, Bill Gates, Sean Combs, Shawn Carter, Andre Young, Jimmy Iovine, Bono & Bruce Springsteen. None of them are gay or a bisexual. Look at Anderson Cooper, Ellen DeGeneres &  Don Lemon. You really think people care if they're gay? I can tell you know people don't care, it's their personal business.  

When Anthony Smith was incarcerated was he wishing for other people to be in his shoes when he was locked up? No! Anthony Smith knew he was innocent & knew he was set-up. It's day to day, Anthony Smith was never worried about nobody in prison being a threat to him. Anthony Smith was set-up, it's a situation Anthony had to handle, nobody else. Anthony Smith didn't sit back & think about enemies or anybody else when he was set-up. Anthony Smith didn't think, I don't belong here, I don't deserve this. Anthony Smith didn't sit back & think about how many people he could set-up to get out. It was day to day, it was all day to day. I guess this is what separate Anthony Smith from Shanton "Shan" Cassell. THEY'RE NOT CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH!  Shan think he's entitled to live better than Anthony Smith because Anthony father past away when he was a teenager & Anthony mother lived below middle class & Shanton step-mother & father owned their house, but they're not middle class either. Shan like to compete with Anthony Smith without Anthony Smith knowing because Anthony Smith don't compete with family & friends. 
   

The reason the set-up was so sloppy is because they knew Anthony Smith couldn't afford the correct legal advise. 

You ever know a government employee to leave enough evidence so someone could win a lawsuit against the United States of America? That would lead to future law suites against the federal government. Attorneys from other States could refer to the case & win.

We are aware people can fax Anthony Smith photo & whatever else these people can cook-up around areas Anthony Smith often visit. Faxes could go to detectives & other people.

Anthony Smith is not hard to follow. He work out at Cleveland State Rec. He catches public transportation. He's at these places regularly. I'm sure they have their lil' suburb buffed white men & women in the gym spreading rumors.

Anthony is a man that shook President Obama hand & helped on his campaign. He also shook President Clinton hand that same year. He also met Robert H. Lawrence Jr. one of the first African American Astronauts. He also met Stephanie Wilson another black Astronaut at MIT. Anthony was putting together a major figure business deal in New York, Cali.

Whatever Anthony Smith was doing he wasn't thinking about drama with Federal Informants & others or with the United States of America.
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They talk that bullshit like prove they informants informants. There was no proof, no court records that Jerrell Bray worked as a DEA informant until he was caught & put into the papers after setting up 19 people, the courts had to release 19 people. Google Jerrell Bray DEA informant & read the news paper articles following his trial & the DEA agent Lucas that helped Bray frame people.

How hard is it to rent or lease a spot & call it a small business? That shit don't make you a genius. Keith was in some group called Kappa Phi Nasty. I'm not saying any of the people Keith hung out with are state or federal informants, I'm just saying, Keith hung-out with Ed, T-Ray, Cotrail, the Twins Mike & Kipper & the rest of their lil' group. Somebody said Cotrail caught a gun charge in the military back in the middle 90's. Anthony use to have Cotrail on the ground screaming, "I'm a dying cockroach, no more raid!!!." Cotrail & others had to do this in front of girls. Anthony don't speak about the past stuff, even back than, but we know about it. It was part of a hazing Cotrail went through to hang. I guess Anthony don't speak about people or talk about the past since he haven't spoken to or seen Cotrail since High school & Anthony haven't spoke to Ed, T-Ray or Keith in over ten years or more. In the 90's they maybe saw one another maybe 3 or 4 times in 6 years. O.k., back in the day, they use to follow Anthony Smith.

From the jump, this want change, Anthony Smith don't give a fuck about Keith Bumbers. Anthony Smith don't think about Keith Bumbers, never asked anybody about Keith Bumbers. Anthony Smith was about to beat Keith ass in Jr. High, Keith begged Anthony to stop. Keith never beat up Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith didn't know what they were doing in Columbus, Ohio before they were caught, didn't ask & didn't give a fuck! Until they were caught, Anthony actually showed sympathy that they got caught. Anthony Smith don't know or ask about where Keith live how much money Keith got & don't give a fuck! Anthony Smith never asked Keith for anything, anything! Anthony Smith don't look at Keith as a family member, unless it's a distant cousin. They should stop because it's pathetic, but they spend enough dough so it make since to the puppets. Keith, Shan or whomever could make over 50 million dollars & Anthony Smith wouldn't give a fuck! What does that have to do with Anthony Smith & Anthony Smith potential? Anthony Smith is not for sell. 

http://truthinjustice.org/lee-lucas2.htm

Google Andrew Chambers the million dollar DEA informant that worked in multiple states. How much evidence did people have that he was a DEA informant? Check any state Andrew Chambers hustled & operated in. How many court documents did people have of Andrew Chambers working as a DEA informant & proof that he put people in prison? None! Not until he got caught & put into the papers. Check with anybody Andrew Chambers put on. What you think Andrew Chambers made all that dough & didn't invest in a small business or real estate? Paid federal informant find it hard to believe that people are federal informants. People that are paid off, people informants do things for regularly find it hard to believe that people are informants. People that are willing to work as sub informants find it hard to believe that people are informants. People who suck people with money dick find it hard to believe that people work as informants because they got money. You can't tell me Andrew Chambers didn't have a crew of people helping him. When you do for people or people hear that you do for people it make people tend to be more helpful because they think they could get something or they helping someone popular. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people in Chambers crew knew he was a DEA informant. This is no different than Keith & Shan & others.
 
   
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/interviews/chambers.html
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How many men get set-up out of State by informants?

In exchange for benefits from the state Informants snitch for a percentage of the seized property, money & drugs on top of cash money, immunity from prosecution, sentence reductions and even the freedom to continue a criminal life.
Snitches financially benefit under federal forfeiture rules allow courts to award up to one quarter of the take in a drug bust or other property seizure to informants up to $500,000. This is why the high roller image is crucial to some informants. Limousines, government seized luxury cars, government seized homes, business fronts all are used. The more cash money & property seized by the government the bigger the payday is fro the informants. In a lot of cases the informants are making a lot of money so they have their own credit & they can rent their own limousines. Local police are powerless against some informants because they operate with State & federal law enforcement officers. I know using informants grants law enforcement freedom from many otherwise applicable legal and practical investigative limitations. Also, informants don't violate Miranda, since an offender so questioned is not in a “police-dominated atmosphere. So let's not for get deals can happen between informants & other parties without law enforcement knowing & informants can make money outside of working with law enforcement to the point they can use their emotional bond, working friendship & influence to persuade their handlers in law enforcement to take a bribe or some kind of money to look the other way or help the informant get rid of competition or set-up someone that cannot afford an attorney & no one will notice being set-up all because the informant don't like the person. But that's something the U.S. Department of Justice don't want to investigate.

Has the war on drugs gotten any better?

Has smuggling drugs reduced any? What about the distribution of drugs?

Has there been a reduction of illegally arms being sold on the street?

Has the there been a reduction in car thefts?

Has there been a reduction in counterfeit money being circulated?

In many areas of the criminal justice system informants go largely unregulated.

What have defense lawyers done? Nothing!

Should there be discussion about reform?

Shouldn't there be a pretrial reliability hearings before allowing informants to testify in place already?

Shouldn't there be cautionary jury instructions in place already?

Shouldn't there be wider discovery already in place?

A lot of courts & legislatures are from the suburbs & out of touch with the people & only are seeking re-election.

There should be better control, maybe a 3rd or 4th parties overseeing the rules on handlers & their informants. The kind of 3rd & 4th parties that aren't persuaded to take a bribe a gift or other inducements.

What did that one informant tell the news paper? Bray planned to increase his share of the drug market by bringing down rivals. The way to do that? Pass along information to the DEA that would be used to arrest the rivals.

And if that didn't work, Bray could always lie about who was selling him the drugs. He set up people he hated, those who made fun of the chubby street dealer.

 

I didn't know informants could setup people just because they hated them. For the rest of that story with the Cleveland news here.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/06/drug_prosecutions_gone_wrong_t.html



Anthony Smith hasn't spoken to his brother in over 15 years. Anthony Smith hasn't spoken to his sister in over 6 years. 

So why did Anthony Smith sister Andrea Orlette Dent Smith contact Anthony Smith public defender & tell his
office Anthony Smith is suffering from a mental illness? How does Andrea arrive at this notion when she haven't spoken to Anthony Smith for over 6 year & what make Andrea an expert on mental illness? Anthony wasn't even charged with anything & was released that day.
Andrea should go back to telling her friends & people Anthony haven't seen since grade school & Jr. High school those rumors. Andrea think by going behind Anthony Smith back trying to find out things about Anthony by speaking to people Anthony hardly even speak to is suppose to mean something. Andrea is really trying to figure out if Anthony is telling people that she helped an informant.  Andrea try & act as if she got love for Anthony. Anthony don't tell Andrea & her mother anything because these people ant kosher & are as fake as that online degree Andrea has. Besides, don't Andrea Dent Orlette Dent Smith have a past criminal record? I wonder if the Girl Scouts of America her daughter belong to know that? Don't Andrea Orlette Dent Smith have a past drug addiction? I wonder if the Girl Scouts of America know that? Didn't Andrea Orlette Dent Smith get fired from several past jobs for stealing? I wonder if the Girl Scouts of America know that? Back in the days didn't Andrea Orlette Dent Smith try & use her brother social security number to get a credit card? Andrea did this without her brother knowing about it while he was in the Air Force. Her brother wouldn't even really speak to her in the 90's & know they cool? Now Andrea Orlette Dent Smith is lil' Ms. innocent. 

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Anthony Smith, the man that was set-up, put this on a website so I copied & pasted this from that website.

U know, the CIA isn't called the "The Company," "The Agency," the "Pickle Factory," the "Christians In Action" & the "Virginia Farm Boys" for nothing.


It's no secret that the CIA is a very sophisticated intelligence agency. So when the CIA is all over you like the media on the hottest story in decades than you will understand what I'm about to say.

When the CIA make mistakes they leave nothing for u to prove they were there. The CIA will embarrass u & destroy your credibility & than make u out to look like a very serious mentally ill person & than they'll go to work on u. Many of u already know, the CIA have a lot of personal resources, they don't always have to use the agency resources because they themselves belong to many prestigious very large organizations, such as the Scottish Rite Freemasons, York Rite Freemasons, The Order of the Eastern Stars, the Elks & the list of fraternities & sororities are endless, not to mention the tremendous amount of resources they possess that many small countries don't have. So when I say they'll go to work on you, I mean they'll go to work on you.

Who's gonna help you? What do the Attorney General really know? Hell, the Attorney General, the VP & President all have to be briefed so what do the VP & President really know? This is nothing knew. Look, 100,000 people worked on the Manhattan Project & yet they managed to keep it a secret from Vice President Truman until he took office.

What's my point? Well, when the CIA made a mistake like they did in the 1980's with their involvement with the distribution of crack cocaine they killed any proof that the
CIA was directly responsible for importing tons of powdered cocaine into the U.S. & protected delivery of that cocaine into inner cities. The black community & government agencies turned a blind eye to the story like it was over, end of story. No story? That dog don't hunt. What make folks think a billion dollar operation that fuel many other privet operations will just have a grand closing because a few black folks made a speculation they can't prove? Were any CIA agents ever investigated? No! Were any CIA agents ever arrested or charged with anything relating to a cocaine cover-up? No! Than what make folks think it was a Grand Closing of a billion dollar operation?

The CIA is an intelligence factory, correct? So if the CIA is making tones of money from say selling narcotics & guns & it's a rumor that the CIA have major involvement, but there is no real evidence, they don't stop! They develop a better system to operate!!! The operations that generate billions of dollars to fund other privet operations never stop they only get more sophisticated in intelligence
& execution.

Here's a small example how the CIA could cut the connection between them & the drugs & guns. The Narcotics Intelligence Network (NIN) works like this, any law enforcement agency conducting an investigation of a drug trafficker must first run the suspect's name through a computer search to find out if anyone else has an ongoing investigation of that suspect. What this does is prevent one agency from arresting another agency's informants (snitches) operatives. Simple.

Here's another, the CIA will use its informants (snitches) within police departments to monitor investigations and warn CIA informants (snitches) in time to avoid arrest.  Simple. No arrest, no explaining what a CIA informant is doing, who's involved in the CIA? More importantly how much money is being made?

The CIA have many methods, but this is only two of them just to show how they are the invisible shadows nobody will ever see, especially not the media & for the CIA or any other government group the media is the only thing they fear.

Yesterday it was crack today it's
Special K, vitamin K, jet (ketamine); G, liquid ecstasy, soap (GHB); roofies (Rohypnol) Adderall, Ritalin, Mushrooms, Acid, Smiles & of course Cocaine, LSD & Marijuana. Which I'm sure informants & sub informants are making a killing off college students 24/7.
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I love USA Today for this article, but tell us something we don't already know. And here's a no brainer for u, Drug Task Force, DEA, ATF, US Marshals, FBI & the CIA know their informants & sub informants are involved in criminal activity, but informants do 85% to 90% of law enforcement work so why f$ck with your ticket to a raise a higher position or any other accolades they may receive. Besides, State & Federal law enforcement always love to have their kids in a good school, who wouldn't? State & Federal law enforcement that work with informants love the good life. We talking about early, debt free, retirement with dough in offshore banks. Do u really think State or Federal law enforcement give a sh$t if a informant is following the rules? Just as long as it don't put their career in jeopardy.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2012/10/07/informants-justice-crime/1600323/

9:12PM EST October 7. 2012 - WASHINGTON — The nation's top drug and gun enforcement agencies do not track how often they give their informants permission to break the law on the government's behalf.

U.S. Justice Department rules put strict limits on when and how agents at the FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives can authorize their informants — often drawn from the ranks of the criminals they are investigating — to commit a crime. But both the ATF and DEA acknowledged, in response to open-records requests and in written statements, that they do not track how often such permission is given.

That routine, if controversial, tactic has come under renewed scrutiny in the wake of the bungled "Fast and Furious" gun-trafficking investigation, which allowed 2,000 weapons to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels and other criminals. A report by the Justice Department's Inspector General found that ATF agents failed to get authorization from their superiors before they allowed gun dealers to sell weapons to suspected cartel operatives.

The report, delivered in September, is the latest internal probe to find agents ignoring the rules. And the department continues to face accusations that its agents overlook crimes by their informants, including one case this year involving an alleged Boston mob captain who was working for the FBI.

"The way we use confidential informants is a huge aspect of the daily operation and also the legitimacy of the criminal justice system," said Alexandra Natapoff, a professor at Loyola Law School Los Angeles. "It's insane that even the law enforcement agencies that actually carry out this policy may not always know how their operatives are doing it."

The ATF and DEA said in written statements that they are "in compliance'' with the rules for using informants, and that information about crimes by individual informants is "collected at both the field division and headquarters levels." The rules do not require the agencies to tally authorizations to engage in what the department calls "otherwise illegal activity" to determine how often it happens.

The FBI, by comparison, is required to collect information on how often each of the bureau's 56 field offices allows informants to break the law, though the bureau would not release those figures. (The FBI initially said in response to a request by USA TODAY that it, too, had no reports that would indicate how often informants are allowed to commit crimes.)

"There has to be some new accountability," said Rep. Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., who introduced a bill last year to force federal law enforcement agencies to tell Congress about crimes by their informants. "There can be a big upside when informants are used and the FBI actually pulls bad people off the street. But no one is looking at the collateral damage."

Informants' work is a closely guarded secret, in large part because of the danger involved. But records suggest the government's network of cooperators is vast: In 2005, the DEA estimated it had 4,000 informants, and two years later the FBI said in a budget request that its agents had 15,000 more. DEA officials told the inspector general's office that "without confidential sources, the DEA could not effectively enforce the controlled substances laws of the United States."

As part of that work, agents have authorized their informants to do everything from buying and selling drugs to participating in Medicaid fraud rings. Agents are supposed to get supervisors' approval before they permit informants to commit even minor crimes; in more serious cases — involving violence or big drug shipments — they must also get permission from Justice Department lawyers.

The department tightened those rules a decade ago, after the FBI acknowledged that its agents had allowed accused Boston mobster James "Whitey" Bulger to run a crime ring responsible for extortion and murder in exchange for information about the mafia.

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Now Cleveland, Ohio is saying Anthony Smith is NOT CRAZY to Cleveland, Ohio Black Scottish Rite Freemasons & Order of the Eastern Star & all this is all in his head & Anthony Smith is BAD LUCK & anyone who's friends with Anthony Smith will start to have bad luck as well & the friends they have will stop speaking to them. Power in numbers. They act like Anthony is making up that all these people mentioned are Freemasons & Order of the Eastern Star. Like it's that hard to become a member. lol. In Cleveland, Ohio they hand out fliers to join the Freemason & Order of the Eastern Star on the bus & train & people throw the fliers on the ground. You can see the fliers on the ground that's been stepped on a lot. Anthony Smith is not dreaming this up! And Anthony Smith know what he knows because of his experience. You really think someone would dream up all of this? What these Fraternal & sorority organizations, black & white need to understand that nobody is talking about every chapter or Grand Lodge, but understand the puppet & the puppet master. So let's say if cute ladies or popular ladies that belong to the Order of the Eastern Star say Anthony Smith is not attractive than other women will think twice & the fella's will be like the ladies don't like Anthony Smith. It's ways to try & play with Anthony head without the informant setting Anthony up. They're almost into a decade doing this. Last time I checked Anthony did not look unhappy, not even with the rumors.  Besides the fact that Anthony Smith been living with the rumor that someone's gonna kill him for over 10 years, I guess u can throw in the teenage years as well & that will make it over a decade, but we talking about this BS in this post so we talking a lil' over 10 years of somebody's gonna kill Anthony Smith. I bet it's the same group of people or sub informants the snitch recruit for a small amount of time trying to create a lil' drama. Spread it around a lil' every year like somebody is looking or after Anthony Smith. lol. They may show people a they got money & they may show guns or acid or try & act like they gonna get next to somebody they think is close to Anthony Smith to set-up Anthony Smith. lol. They're a joke!!!
At the same time I bet they're putting on some kind of act for the new friends they meet. New life, new lie! If they around people that know them it's same person change life new lie! 

So let's say the largest white Greek Fraternity or Sorority see Anthony Smith saying hello to a cute lady that may have grew-up in a majority Caucasian community. It's easy for members of say Tau Kappa Epsilon, Kappa Sigma, Sigma Alpha, Epsilon Sigma Chi & other frats that belong to the Scottish Rite Freemason & Order of the Eastern Star lodges to make up something & put a nice looking guy that work out on that lady. These are the largest frats. Say they make up a lie about being in the locker room with Anthony Smith & make up something stupid & passing it on to a couple of sororities? It don't matter how big they are they don't want it coming back to Anthony Smith ears. Some of these frats sell pills, cannabis & guns & have racist views. Some have made the paper & some haven't.

So let's say, Anthony Smith met a lady or speak to lady the Scottish Rite Freemasons or the Order Eastern Star think Anthony Smith may like, they have enough members watching Anthony Smith. If They think Anthony Smith may like a lady do they put a Scottish Rite Freemason in her face to put something in her ear? Do they use her friends to put something in her ear  negative about Anthony Smith? We are speaking about a fraternity, sorority, organization with over a million active members. Let's say Anthony Smith is becoming friendly with someone do they put something negative in that person ear about Anthony Smith? BLACKBALL? See u coming 99% of the time. Scared a potential member ya'll could milk out of a dollar could be influenced by Anthony Smith? Hell, it's folks that's been writing books about ya"ll for decades. Is it a million active members or is it the influence a few members, that mentioned above, have? I know ya"ll can't be worried about Anthony Smith stopping ya"ll cash cow.

This is not paranoia or schizophrenia this is very possible. I know how Scottish Rite Freemasons, York Rite Freemasons & Order of the Eastern Star like to work, everything is done in court. Take away someone freedom & their rights is something that that's been going on since slavery. It's something corporate lawyers & corporations love to do. Take away someone like liberty & freedom is nothing new. Today it's done by black folks against black folks.

I may speak about bogus lodges, but not all Prince Hall Freemasons are all ELITE & not all are in COLLEGE. Not all Cleveland, Ohio Freemasons don't practice on the foundation of why Prince Hall was built & they don't operate on the fabric & foundation of the Masonic Order.
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This is how a 5k1 reduction really works.
This is from Frontline PBS Interview with James Settembrino.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snitch/cases/joeydad.html

James Settembrino is Joey Settembrino's father. In an attempt to obtain a lower sentence for his son, James Settembrino tried to assist prosecutors by providing information about other drug dealers.




The government contacted me and said, "There's other ways that can help
your son." "Well, what's the other ways?" "Well, you go do something. ... If you can do this, find people that have drugs and purchase drugs from them, we'll act favorably in giving your son a 5K1 reduction." And I said, "Well, why would you do that?" "You want your son to get reduced, right?" I said, "Yes." "We want convictions and that's why we do it." So at that particular point I had them send a letter to my attorney ... stipulating that.

Stipulating what?

 

Stipulating that he would recommend a 5K1 reduction for my son if I went out and did substantial assistance by implicating and arresting people who were dealing in drugs. ...

Did they know you weren't involved?

Oh, they knew that all the time. They knew that I wasn't, but they said that even though you're not, it doesn't really make a difference, these people are interested in money. And you know nothing's ever going to happen, I mean, nobody's going to get hurt. I says, "Well don't people get killed when they do this?" They said, "Oh no, that never happens, don't worry about that." "Well, what happens when you set somebody else up, do they come after you afterwards?" "Oh, that'll never happen, don't worry about that either." They made it sound like it was just an easy thing to do. ...

You did it?

I tried to. ... I tried to find people who were dealing in drugs by finding people who were using drugs. And once I found someone who was using drugs, then naturally it wasn't very hard to find out ... where they frequented, to where they were getting the drugs from. But I guess I've got a symbol on me that says I'm not a drug user, so it was very, very difficult. No one would sell to me. [There were] many, many occasions that I tried to, but they just looked at me like you're the wrong type, you don't look the part, something's wrong. I never was able to make a single sale, even for $10 worth of drugs, let along $10,000. ...

So after I failed I spoke with the agents and they made tape recordings of some calls that we made. ... And then after that I met a fellow in New York, a very innovative person, who had been through this with his daughter. And he had seen the agony in me and had talked with me. ... He says, "I know what they want. ... They'll accept something that you do to get somebody convicted or arrested for using drugs and that can get your son out. ... That happened to me, too. ... I went out and did something and I've got some good connections." I says, "And you can help?" And he said, "Yes, but it'll cost you." "So how much will it cost?" "Well, I'll have to make some calls, I'll be back with you in a couple of days." [He] called back and it was $70,000. At that time I didn't have $70,000, but I did have a house, so I mortgaged it. And they flew into town. I gave the money to buy the drugs. Made the arrangements with the agents to be involved with the deal, took him to that office ... where the DEA agents were. And we began. And next couple of days we had everything all set up.

Why did you do it?

... The attorneys had told me that if we went to trial, he could face as many as few as 27 years, as much as 35 years. And that by not going to trial, we were literally guaranteed 10 years as a minimum. And that if we gave substantial assistance, worked with the government, we could downgrade that through a 5K1 reduction to about 21, 22 months is what we were looking at. ...

How much money was involved?

It cost me. I would say that over a year and a half period with everything that I did, and that's not talking about the wages that I lost when I didn't work, but just out of pocket cash, actual green dollars, well over a $150,000. And that doesn't count the legal fees either.

What was the plan?

... I had such a guilt-ridden situation after my son said to me, "Dad, this is not right for you to do this." He didn't want me to do anything. He said, "This is not right, you're going to put someone through the same thing that we've gone through." So the last attempt was really one that was going to be something that I could not have to worry about hurting anyone, because that man was coming in here from another country. He knew what he was doing when he was coming here. He knew he was going to get arrested. And he knew he was going to bond out 'cause I was going to bond him out. And he knew he wasn't going to go to jail, because as soon as he bonded out, he was gone. So they got their drugs and I paid for those ... but that one never took place ... .

Did the prosecutor know the details?

No. He didn't know all of them, he knew that there was going to be some five [kilos] of cocaine involved in it. And that there was going to be a buy of it and that he was going to make an arrest ... .

Why didn't it work?

At around five minutes till five--this was supposed to take place between five and five-thirty--James Boma called my son's attorney David Bogenschutz, and David called me from his car phone and said, "Jim, we got a problem." I said, "What's the problem?" He said, "Well, the problem is that Mr. Boma is unhappy ... with my filing. And I got him on the other line right now." So Boma got on the other phone and he just started screaming at me. He said, "The deal is off, the deal is off. You got nothing, you're not doing a thing, you're not getting any help and I don't care if your son stays in jail for 20 years, we got no deal. Finished." And he hung up the phone on me.

Why?

Because Bogenschutz had filed, which he had to, ... these papers trying to get a downward motion. [And Boma said that he's] now going to have to have a staff work about two weeks just to answer the briefs. I says, "Well, isn't that your job? I mean, my attorney has to do his job, what's that have to do with our deal? If he didn't do this, he's unable to do it at a later date, it has to be filed now. Why are you taking such offense?" "We got no deal, we got no deal, I'm not doing it, I'm not helping you, you're not helping me. You shouldn't have had him file that. We had deals working, now we got no deal. ..." He took offense to the fact that we filed a motion and he didn't want to answer that motion. So that was the end of that. I lost my money cause I already paid the money. And that was the last thing that I did.

How did you feel about the fact that you were trying to set someone up?

I don't think you have a point where you have thoughts about what you're doing. I would kind of think that it's something like in the ocean, if you're drowning and a matchstick goes by, you tend to want to hold onto it even though it can't help you. Well, basically the same thing [happened] here. When you have your son or your daughter who's sitting in a federal prison and you bring your family there to see him, and you can't sit there for longer than 15 minutes without breaking down for just the sight of seeing your own in jail under those circumstances, it just leads you to do anything. You just grasp for whatever's there, even if it's right or if it's wrong, you don't really think too much about it. I know I didn't think too much about it. I have a lot of second thoughts now, but I didn't think too much about it at that time. It was just, "It's got to be done, otherwise he's going to spend the rest of his life in jail, he's going to come out a criminal." ...

Here's the full interview.
Do you remember your reaction when you found out your son had been arrested?

... I'll never forget that night when I got that first telephone call as he was in jail for the first evening. It was rather a quick telephone call and the shriekingness will live with me till I die probably, because all he said was, "I'm here, get me out, I'll never be able to do 10 years," and broke down for the first time and the phone went dead. That's all he said to me. I'll never forget that. ...

At first I didn't believe it, and then shock set in. ... And then I said, "Well, I've got to call over there, find out. Have Herb go over there right now and find out what the bond is and let's get him out." And Herb would be Herb Cohen, who was a friend of mine and an attorney. And, of course, he did and told me that it was a $500,000 bond. And I said, "Okay, let's get him out."

How did you feel about Joey and drugs?

During that period of time, I'm not sure what he was really into, although we've had our differences back and forth. ... I didn't really accept the fact that he had anything to do with drugs because he was brought up not to have anything to do with drugs. He [had worked in] an office that we had [where] most of the people that worked in there were abusers who had now entered programs and that were not taking any drugs. So he heard the drug stories on a continual basis every day, not to fool with drugs. So I really did not believe that he had anything to do with drugs ... .

He was out on bond, then what?

Well, first thing was he got out. And then after he got out, [we] found out what the charges were. He had gone to a public defender, at first, to represent him. And of course then I intervened and said, "You can't have a public defender, you've got to get an attorney." So I got an attorney for him. And ... the attorney told me, he says, "Jim, you don't want to hear this, but he's in bad shape here. He could go to jail for 30 years." I says, "Thirty years, are you crazy? ... He's 18 years old. How can someone go to jail for 30 years for selling drugs?" He said, "Well, this is a federal offense. It's not a state offense. There's a whole different ball game federally. ... "

So Joey was set up?

You're never sure, but evidently this confidential informant had loaned him some money [in order] to make a car payment. And, of course, he didn't pay him back in time. And he said, "Well, there's a way to make some money." "What's that?" So the kid proposed that he went to another friend of his who he said he knew had something and if he would buy it for him, he'd give him the money and also at the same time he wouldn't have to pay back the money that he borrowed for the car payment. That's the way I recall of how it began. And of course he, being the boisterous type of person ... he played the part and did what the kid wanted him to do. "You get on the phone, you tell me this, you tell me that." And he did all of that. So the agents, at that particular point as he was being set up, probably thought they were really dealing with someone who was dealing with all kinds of drugs, unbeknownst to them that he had never dealt with any drugs. ...

What happened to the snitch?

Well, I don't think he spent any time in jail, pretty much sure of that because I've seen him in the neighborhood. Two, three years after my son was in jail I still continue to see him. In fact one evening I went to a bowling alley and it was about 12:30, 1:00 at night and stopped in the bowling alley with my wife. And went in to the bathroom and there he was. And of course he was in a bathroom stall taking some drugs and selling them to someone else, which I actually saw, [and] I couldn't believe it. But he's still out. ...

 

Why did they want Joey?

... They don't care who they arrest. They're interested in convictions. It doesn't make any difference who it is as long as they get convictions. The public wants that. ... The public wants to know that the drug dealers are the cause of all their evils and that as long as you make type, newspaper type putting them in jail, that's what they want. They don't care who it is.

I really don't think they just wanted Joey; they wanted anyone who they could get. They have confidential informants out there and those are people who've been arrested. They work for the government. They go out and they'll set up anybody they can. They'll actually come to people and say, "Here's what you have to do, you go here, go over here, you buy these drugs, I'll give you this, I'll give you that."

How do you know?

I've seen it. They asked me to do it. I know firsthand. That's what they wanted me to do. ...

Did Joey offer to snitch?

... When we were standing outside the courtroom on the first appearance, naturally the prosecutor was there and Joseph's attorney was there and also the agents who arrested him. And of course the agents were the first ones who said that there's a way to get yourself nearly out of this. "You're facing 30 years in jail, but if you come in and you help us, and you cooperate with us by going out and working and setting up and buying drugs so we can get convictions, we're going to recommend to the court what is known as a 5K1 reduction which enables you to bypass the guidelines and go underneath the guidelines. And now the judge will listen to whatever the prosecutor has to say and reduce your sentence by 70-80%."

What did Joey say?

Well at first he was ... very apprehensive about doing anything because he said, "I can't do that, I don't know anybody, I can't do it." And of course after several months of realizing that he is going to go to jail, I tried to convince him that here's the three options you have. You can plead guilty, do 121 to 151 months. You can go work for the government. They're going to reduce you down to about 21 or 23, 24 months, or you can get on a plane and fly to Europe and never come back. Those are your only three choices. Now you have to tell me which one you want to do. And, of course, he couldn't come up with answer as to which one he wanted to do. He says, "Well, I don't want to leave the country, I don't want to leave my family. I don't want to go to jail, but I don't want to snitch on anybody, because I don't know how and I don't know how to deal with drugs. I don't know anybody ... ." He couldn't come up with anything ... .And after a while he just refused to. He says, "Look what you've gone through. ... Look what my mother's gone through. Look what my sisters are going through. Look what our family's going through, all because of me. And now we're going to have the same thing happen to someone else?" And he just didn't want to do that. He didn't want to have what was happening to us happen to someone else. And he was very, very much opposed to it.

How did you get involved?

... The government contacted me and said, "There's other ways that can help your son." "Well, what's the other ways?" "Well, you go do something. ... If you can do this, find people that have drugs and purchase drugs from them, we'll act favorably in giving your son a 5K1 reduction." And I said, "Well, why would you do that?" "You want your son to get reduced, right?" I said, "Yes." "We want convictions and that's why we do it." So at that particular point I had them send a letter to my attorney ... stipulating that.

Stipulating what?

 

Stipulating that he would recommend a 5K1 reduction for my son if I went out and did substantial assistance by implicating and arresting people who were dealing in drugs. ...

Did they know you weren't involved?

Oh, they knew that all the time. They knew that I wasn't, but they said that even though you're not, it doesn't really make a difference, these people are interested in money. And you know nothing's ever going to happen, I mean, nobody's going to get hurt. I says, "Well don't people get killed when they do this?" They said, "Oh no, that never happens, don't worry about that." "Well, what happens when you set somebody else up, do they come after you afterwards?" "Oh, that'll never happen, don't worry about that either." They made it sound like it was just an easy thing to do. ...

You did it?

I tried to. ... I tried to find people who were dealing in drugs by finding people who were using drugs. And once I found someone who was using drugs, then naturally it wasn't very hard to find out ... where they frequented, to where they were getting the drugs from. But I guess I've got a symbol on me that says I'm not a drug user, so it was very, very difficult. No one would sell to me. [There were] many, many occasions that I tried to, but they just looked at me like you're the wrong type, you don't look the part, something's wrong. I never was able to make a single sale, even for $10 worth of drugs, let along $10,000. ...

So after I failed I spoke with the agents and they made tape recordings of some calls that we made. ... And then after that I met a fellow in New York, a very innovative person, who had been through this with his daughter. And he had seen the agony in me and had talked with me. ... He says, "I know what they want. ... They'll accept something that you do to get somebody convicted or arrested for using drugs and that can get your son out. ... That happened to me, too. ... I went out and did something and I've got some good connections." I says, "And you can help?" And he said, "Yes, but it'll cost you." "So how much will it cost?" "Well, I'll have to make some calls, I'll be back with you in a couple of days." [He] called back and it was $70,000. At that time I didn't have $70,000, but I did have a house, so I mortgaged it. And they flew into town. I gave the money to buy the drugs. Made the arrangements with the agents to be involved with the deal, took him to that office ... where the DEA agents were. And we began. And next couple of days we had everything all set up.

Why did you do it?

... The attorneys had told me that if we went to trial, he could face as many as few as 27 years, as much as 35 years. And that by not going to trial, we were literally guaranteed 10 years as a minimum. And that if we gave substantial assistance, worked with the government, we could downgrade that through a 5K1 reduction to about 21, 22 months is what we were looking at. ...

How much money was involved?

It cost me. I would say that over a year and a half period with everything that I did, and that's not talking about the wages that I lost when I didn't work, but just out of pocket cash, actual green dollars, well over a $150,000. And that doesn't count the legal fees either.

What was the plan?

... I had such a guilt-ridden situation after my son said to me, "Dad, this is not right for you to do this." He didn't want me to do anything. He said, "This is not right, you're going to put someone through the same thing that we've gone through." So the last attempt was really one that was going to be something that I could not have to worry about hurting anyone, because that man was coming in here from another country. He knew what he was doing when he was coming here. He knew he was going to get arrested. And he knew he was going to bond out 'cause I was going to bond him out. And he knew he wasn't going to go to jail, because as soon as he bonded out, he was gone. So they got their drugs and I paid for those ... but that one never took place ... .

Did the prosecutor know the details?

No. He didn't know all of them, he knew that there was going to be some five [kilos] of cocaine involved in it. And that there was going to be a buy of it and that he was going to make an arrest ... .

Why didn't it work?

At around five minutes till five--this was supposed to take place between five and five-thirty--James Boma called my son's attorney David Bogenschutz, and David called me from his car phone and said, "Jim, we got a problem." I said, "What's the problem?" He said, "Well, the problem is that Mr. Boma is unhappy ... with my filing. And I got him on the other line right now." So Boma got on the other phone and he just started screaming at me. He said, "The deal is off, the deal is off. You got nothing, you're not doing a thing, you're not getting any help and I don't care if your son stays in jail for 20 years, we got no deal. Finished." And he hung up the phone on me.

Why?

Because Bogenschutz had filed, which he had to, ... these papers trying to get a downward motion. [And Boma said that he's] now going to have to have a staff work about two weeks just to answer the briefs. I says, "Well, isn't that your job? I mean, my attorney has to do his job, what's that have to do with our deal? If he didn't do this, he's unable to do it at a later date, it has to be filed now. Why are you taking such offense?" "We got no deal, we got no deal, I'm not doing it, I'm not helping you, you're not helping me. You shouldn't have had him file that. We had deals working, now we got no deal. ..." He took offense to the fact that we filed a motion and he didn't want to answer that motion. So that was the end of that. I lost my money cause I already paid the money. And that was the last thing that I did.

How did you feel about the fact that you were trying to set someone up?

I don't think you have a point where you have thoughts about what you're doing. I would kind of think that it's something like in the ocean, if you're drowning and a matchstick goes by, you tend to want to hold onto it even though it can't help you. Well, basically the same thing [happened] here. When you have your son or your daughter who's sitting in a federal prison and you bring your family there to see him, and you can't sit there for longer than 15 minutes without breaking down for just the sight of seeing your own in jail under those circumstances, it just leads you to do anything. You just grasp for whatever's there, even if it's right or if it's wrong, you don't really think too much about it. I know I didn't think too much about it. I have a lot of second thoughts now, but I didn't think too much about it at that time. It was just, "It's got to be done, otherwise he's going to spend the rest of his life in jail, he's going to come out a criminal." ...

 

Are you angry?

Yes, very angry. ... I'm not sure who I'm more angry at, if I'm more angry at myself, my son, or the government. ... Probably myself the most and then secondly the government. I'm angry at the government for allowing myself, in particular, or even my son, to go out and put themselves in harm's way. I had no knowledge whatsoever of how to do this. I didn't know what to do. ...

Is there a lesson in all this?

The lesson here is that if you are a low person on the pole, someone who really has not involved themselves with drugs and you're dealing in any type [of] quantity, you're going to do the time for the guy above you and you're going to stay in jail. The real drug dealers don't go to jail. What they do is they have enough money to hire good attorneys, to make deals and to go out and set up everyone below them. So they'll get their reductions because they can turn around and have the ability to put someone in that spot. Where someone at the bottom of that pole has no ability, he's going to rot in jail, he's going to do his time. The real drug dealers don't do time.

But the idea behind these laws was the opposite.

Right. The reason for minimum mandatories is from Nancy Reagan. She insisted upon minimum mandatories. Let's put harsher penalties on drug dealers. It was a great thought, it really was, but they left no avenue for escape for those that were caught. ... If you do this, the judge only can give you the minimum or the maximum or something in between. So he has no discretion and those penalties are severe.

So the only safety valve is snitching?

That's the only safety valve. Anyone who has a 5K1 reduction is a snitch. They've done something for the government to warrant [a departure] from those guidelines and the only thing they can do is to be a confidential informant. So if you've got someone who's in a federal prison right now that's serving time for an offense and that offense is less than five years on the drug market, then he's a snitch. ...
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What many folks don't know is that the government & snitches often set-up people to help them & often try & force relatives & friends to help them & the tactics they use are very much against the law. In some cases the government will have a family member of the snitch set-up & placed in prison to work off the snitch sentence. The sad part is that this is done without the relative knowing.  I don't think Eric Holder is aware of this either.
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This is Anthony Smith life or the perception of Anthony Smith life history on paper being exposed to places Anthony Smith frequently visit.  We love how male bitches try & sneak around & spread shit & how they try & paint Anthony Smith as a criminal. THAT RECORD DON'T MEAN SHIT! A corrupt federal agent that's active or maybe inactive working with a paid federal informant & his crew of sub informants know the law so they know how to brake the law & their influence active or inactive is still great. Now they can live with themselves because they know it's others that put their job in jeopardy. If theses folks are exposed than the folks that did favors for them will do anything to save their credibility & careers. Lets' not forget about Anthony Smith crazy ex-girlfriend that's been ordered by a court of law to undergo psychological evaluation. Let's not forget that she also has a degree in psychology. So here we have people that can use the law to create chaos in Anthony Smith life while holding a community of judgement, court of opinion.The law can be very manipulative & a piece of paper with someone name on it can be very vicious if it's handed out by seemingly illustrious well respected people that belong to so-called illustrious well respected organizations, fraternities, sororities & communities. 

lol.
By the way, Anthony Smith carry a MacBook Pro laptop & paper work & other stuff in his backpack so how is Anthony Smith suppose to be running from the police? That must be one slow cop or security guard. In fact, most police officers see Anthony Smith & say hello & keep moving.  But the folks above mentioned in the post ya"ll keep trying tho.  

They kill me trying to make eye contact & stare at Anthony, when Anthony stare at them like if they're retarded or something they look away.
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Who would stalk someone for over 10 years? 

Do you really think Anthony Smith is gonna commit suicide because of rumors & influence?

Remember, ya"ll are the weak ones that's just wasting money. To weak to find someone that could actually do the job for money & you're hoping that you can make folks upset at the mere presence of Anthony Smith based on rumors? lol. Someone else to do your dirty work? Spineless. I'm sure after I post this ya"ll are gonna come out & say how much you really want Anthony Smith to get his life together, how would you know if you haven't spoken to Anthony Smith in over a decade? Pray for a heart attack.lol. 
    
People embrace these people because of the big prestigious masquerade.
 

This is passed someones obsession & people not telling that person the true about themselves.


Why all the stalking? 

           

Well, there may have been a SUPER LOTTO TICKET worth millions that was taken from Anthony Smith back in 1999. The Super lotto ticket was in Anthony Smith truck back in 1999.

 

Back in 1998 Anthony Smith co-signed on a new truck while they were dating. In 1999 Heather Wall & Ronnette Burkes & maybe others had Tri-C community college security remove Anthony Smith truck from a parking garage when he was in class. The lottery ticket was in the truck back in August of 1999. Maybe Heather Wall got the ticket, maybe Ronnette Burkes, maybe others were there like Ro Burkes & Andre Smith. Maybe they split it up or maybe they kept it, but was generous with certain people.

Anthony Smith never thought about the ticket, t
he SUPER LOTTO TICKET was like the POWER BALL OR MEGA MILLION in Ohio back in the 90's, the Super Lotto just started at a lower jackpot  than the Mega Million & Powerball. Who thinks they're the lottery winner of millions of dollars? Anyway, back in 1999 Anthony Smith had a warrant out for unpaid traffic tickets at the time so he couldn't complain when approached by security SO HE GAVE THEM THE KEYS. We know Heather Wall & Ronnette Burkes was there & maybe others.

 
Who is Heather Wall?

Heather Wall received a B.A. from Ursuline college in psychology and a Master degree from Case Western University in Social Work in 1998. Heather Wall try & make Anthony Smith out to look like a imbecile, but he was helping her with her homework when she was going to CWRU trying to earn her Masters. Actually he helped her with one research paper. Of course, like most high yellow or lighter skinned black people with white people in their family Heather hope she can play off Anthony Smith looks because Anthony is black & have strong facial features.

Previously before dating Anthony Smith Heather Wall was ordered by a judge in Cleveland, Ohio to undergo psychological evaluation at the Cleveland Date Rape Center because Heather tried to get a man convicted & in doing so Heather was trying to take away that person self-esteem & how he valued himself. I bet Heather Wall tried doing those soap opera Caucasian women crocodile tears she's very good at doing. love the drama, but this time it didn't work & nobody was kissing her ass or falling for the victim BULLSHIT! This girl would tape soap operas & rehearse. This girl would tape soap operas & rehearse. I say that to say, a lot of folks love crocodile tears & drama & sometime folks can create those crocodile tears & drama for attention. 


Heather Hall look like she's not threatening, not even verbally so Heather Wall understand her strength when dealing with people she wanna control. I really don't think Heather Wall was or is suffering from a mental illness when a Judge
ordered heather Wall to undergo psychological evaluation at the Cleveland Date Rape Center back in 1996 or 1997. Why do I say that? Because Heather Wall know how to turn her emotions on & off. Heather Wall know how to think fast & she know people are controlled by money & influence & her influence was her degree at the time. Deep down inside Heather Wall is very insecure. Heather Wall strongly believe that men only love her because she has a degree. That's not the case, but it's what she believe. Heather Wall clearly understand that white folks, like every other race only respect money. Heather Wall know the key to control most people is through money & what you could possibly do for them or give them the oppression that you're gonna do something for them. That always set-up the puppet & the puppet master.  

Heather Wall & Ronette Roni Burkes
are like Bonnie Sweeten, Amanda Knox, Bethanny Storro. Bethanny threw acid in her own face and yet blamed a black woman for the crime? Storro wanted media attention and, ironically, to meet Oprah Winfrey, the most powerful black woman in the world. It was Winfrey's producers who discovered the gaping holes in Storro's story and alerted police to her lies. 

It's a pathetic when women try & show their ex-boyfriend that they're happy by using another other men. It's a reason why he's your ex-boyfriend & it's pathetic that you can't get him out of your mind to the point you use other men to try & show that you moved on to a man that don't give two-fuc$s about you. It's pathetic when women try & create a drama scene after the relationship is over. It's even more pathetic to stalk a man,knowing if that man stalked a woman in that same fashion he would be incarcerated. It's pathetic to pass out flyers with a fake bio of your ex-boyfriend in places he frequently visit. It's even more pathetic to hire a privet investigator or a bisexual to stalk an ex-boyfriend around all to interfere in his life indirectly so he want be HAPPY IN YOUR EYES. Women, you can't stop a man from being happy, especially if you're to spineless to kill him. But this story in the thread address is something else all together even more crazy, but true!  


Hell, Anthony wasn't even verbally abusive to Heather Wall, Anthony never tried to contact Heather Wall after the relationship was over back in 1999. Abusive my ass! The
fact of the matter, after Heather hair was pulled, for a couple of seconds, Heather Wall stayed in the relationship for a month until Anthony Smith left his 40g's a year job & than that's when Heather Wall left. 


Anthony Smith & Heather Wall didn't have a business together, they didn't have children & they wasn't engaged or married or anything else other than just dating & they had no contact at all what's so ever after the relationship was over. Not sure Heather Wall wanna be in Anthony Smith life, but she knows that's impossible after she stalked the man. We do know Heather Wall tries to interfere in Anthony Smith life, it doesn't matter if someone is manipulated to interfere in Anthony Smith life, to be their mouthpiece & puppets or if a privet investigator is used or both. We do know this is done very sneaky & spineless. It's made to look like a service to the community, that's why all the lies about Anthony Smith need to get around to the right people.
I don't know, maybe Heather think she was the best thing that happened to Anthony Smith, but she was far from it, no matter how many women they try & stop from dating or speaking with Anthony Smith by using puppets.

I don't know maybe Heather would have like to think she was the best thing that happened to someone who didn't give a shit about her after the relationship was because of her actions & who she is a person & her character as a person & she knows that so she try & force the person to think about her. It's hard for someone like Heather Wall to understand that it's not about replacing her. Anthony Smith & Heather Wall didn't have a business together, they didn't have children & they wasn't engaged or married anything else other than just dating & they had no contact at all what's so ever after the relationship was over.

At the Cleveland Date Rape Center Heather Wall
 met Ronette Burkes. Ronette is also Anthony cousin, we will get to Ronette in a minute. Heather Wall left a open letter out on her dresser in her bedroom from the Cleveland Date Rape Center stating that Heather Wall strongly needed to come back and finish her psychological evaluation. People like Anthony Smith saw the letter & thought she was a volunteer, before reading it. Anthony should have known Heather Wall is not upper class, she's a phony & spineless person. Anthony Smith, well less just say Anthony Smith DO NOT NEED A PENIS ENLARGEMENT, was enough to have Heather Wall begging crying every time Anthony Smith broke up with her. Trying to make jokes about a man's penis after the relationship has been over for over a decade is so much Heather Wall I can't even explain.

 

Heather Wall started telling people Anthony Smith was beating on her because she knew he wanted out of the relationship & also because he co-signed on a new truck. It would appear that she couldn't keep a man because of her past drama & low self esteem. Did Anthony beat Heather? Out of 9 months of dating Anthony pulled her hair  one time for a second & grabbed her onetime. No smacks, no punches & no verbal abuse. Anthony really didn't know anything about Heather Wall mental illness. 


Anthony knew nothing about schizophrenia,erotomania, bipolar disorder, psychosis. Heather Wall also became very possessive and very emotional all the time. Heather would ask Anthony to spend the night, even though he worked long hours. Anthony Smith had just received a promotion after someone at his corporation retired. Heather Wall was unemployed & was living at home with her mother. Heather Wall mother worked at a grocery store.

 

Anthony Smith & Heather Wall broke-up in 1999 & they had no contact with each other. No phone calls, no letters in the mail,no e-mails. No contact at all. So how did Heather Wall know Anthony Smith was in Cali & to find him at UCLA?

 

Heather Wall stalked Anthony & at onetime tried to walk- up on Anthony. Anthony kept it moving & never tried to speak. After that Anthony thought very low of her. When I say low I mean the lowest piece of sh$t.                       

 

Heather Wall panicked after being exposed as a stalker in 2004 in Cali at UCLA & other States so Heather had people spread a rumor that she died from sickle cell anemia. DRAMA!!! Heather Wall stalked Anthony Smith after her so-called death in other States like Temple University. Anthony was on his way back to New York & saw a limo he saw before earlier so he walked up on the limo. It was at night, but he could see there was no driver inside so he looked through the window without the tint & he could see heather Wall wearing a black dress & someone else hiding in the back. Heather Wall jumped up in the driver seat & tried to lock the door. They never got out so Anthony took a photo of the plates.

 

I think Anthony contacted Mr. Wansky at the Cleveland FBI office because he was dealing with people with government resources & they are highly educated & belong to large organizations, sororities & fraternities. Soon after that Anthony was stopped by local police & was held for about an hour & the photo of the limo & limo license plates & other photos of Anthony Smith in New York & DC was missing from his camera & laptop. Also, paperwork was missing from Anthony property.                   

I don't have all the facts, but there was talk about Anthony Smith pursuing a contract that was worth 6 figures that could have tuned into 7 or 8 figures Cali & maybe New York, but how would they have known that?    

Heather appear to be an intimacy stalker or a resentful stalker. And someone that will play people of different ethnic backgrounds when it suits her. White & black people don't care as long as she don't go broke. They will help her & support her.

 
Most women don't see men accused of crimes they didn't commit as victims, they view them as necessary collateral damage,
appropriate payback. Public opinion. A lot of men think that want happen to me because how I treat my woman or lady. Not so, you never know how deep a woman is hurt or embarrassed after you leave her. Some of these women look at it as payback for patriarchy.

Again, why all the stalking? 

           

Well there may have been a SUPER LOTTO TICKET that was taken from Anthony Smith back in 1999.

 

Back in 1998 Anthony Smith co-signed on a new truck while they were dating. In 1999 they had the community college security remove Anthony Smith truck from a parking garage when he was in class. The lottery ticket was in the truck back in August of 1999. He never thought about the ticket because nobody win those million dollar tickets. The SUPER LOTTO TICKET WAS LIKE THE POWER BALL OR MEGA MILLION IN OHIO BACK IN THE 90'S. Anthony Smith had a warrant out for unpaid traffic tickets at the time so he couldn't complain when approached by security SO HE GAVE THEM THE KEYS. We know Heather Wall was there & Ronette Burkes was there.

Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority has built a strong, cohesive organization that positively impacts the lives of families and communities, while simultaneously providing "Service to All Mankind."

THIS IS BULLSH$T!

I know an Alpha Kappa Alpha from Cleveland, Ohio now living in Columbus, Ohio who has younger female cousins that she never bothered to spend time with & really looked down on them mainly because they were poor. This Alpha Kappa Alpha named Ronnette Ronni Burkes is super prestigious grew up around white folks & Ronnette is related to Ceaser Burkes who owned a fast food franchises since the 70's. Growing up Ronnette Roni Burkes never had time for her poor female cousins. I'm not talking about distant cousins, I'm talking about her mother sisters daughters, her bloodline. Ronnette always had time for her distant cousins & the white women she grew up with because they had money & she felt very, very, very comfortable around them, but her younger female poor cousins made Ronnette very uncomfortable. It's not like they did anything to her other than being poor.I guess Ronnette got that from her mother Gloria Burkes. Gloria Burkes like to play golf with her white friends, but Gloria Burkes have never invited any of her sisters daughters to the golf course. I wonder what a few weekends out of a couple of months would have meant to them? What kind of influence that could have made on their lives? All of Ronnette younger female cousins on her mother side of the family have been in & out of the county & state prison & her youngest cousins all had children before they were 15 years old. As a matter of fact, Ronnette Burkes youngest female cousin on her mother side of the family is in the county prison right now serving several months. Don't get the wrong idea about these women. Did these cousins do anything to Ronnette? No. They never even had an argument & they never asked Ronnette for money & all the females on her mother side all looked up to Ronnette Burkes. I personally think Ronnette think she was born with two balls & a cain. The kind of woman who think she know what a real man should be like there for she think she can take a mans balls away by making them very unattractive to women. Ronnette Roni Burkes has a large group of powerful white friends she has known since high school, we talking back in the 80's. These white friends also belong to the largest white sororities & fraternities in the World & their careers & resources, well, you get the point.

Don't get me wrong, this prestigious Alpha Kappa Alpha, Ronnette Roni Burkes younger female cousins are responsible for their own actions, but these young ladies life could have been changed, they lives could still be saved, but at a younger age with the proper influence they lives could have been different if they were exposed to a different life on a regular bases. They mother was a single parent mother & she did the best she could, but she worked, sometime two jobs with no help at all.

Ronnette Roni Burkes has a prestigious Alpha Kappa Alpha Chapter in Columbus, Ohio. How a sister like Ronnette could care so much about building, shaping & being a positive influence in young women lives that she don't know, but have young female cousins almost living on the street, poor & disparate?   

Than I hear that this prestigious Alpha Kappa Alpha Ronnette Roni Burkes played a part in & is involved in trying to ruin family member life while simultaneously providing "Service to All Mankind."

NOT SO CRAZY.

Of course, Alpha Kappa Alpha, Ronnette Ronni Burkes is super prestigious being related to Ceaser Burkes who owned a fast food franchises since the 70's. Of course Ronnette Ronni Burkes is super prestigious being related to family members who got caught selling narcotics. Did Ronnette snub them in the 90's? Ronnette wanna act like she's some how embarrassed to be related to Anthony Smith. If I was Anthony Smith I would be more embarrassed about being related to the super prestigious Ronette Ronni Burkes. The super prestigious Ronnette Roni Burkes use to be pride her self on being a white mans hoe back in high school. Ronnette Roni Burkes is not loyal to her family, unless they had dough. In the 90's was Ronnette embarrassed about being related to her cousins that sold drugs? Hell no! Ronnette Ronni Burkes grew-up around all white folks so she's super prestigious. We know Ronnette Ronie Burkes, Alpha Kappa Alpha, don't have a criminal record & can be trusted. What a minute, didn't  Barbara McKinzie, Alpha Kappa Alpha President, misappropriated funds & commission a $900,000 wax figure of herself? She's also accused of taking nearly $400,000 for personal expenses and arranging for a $4,000 monthly stipend to be paid to herself after she leaves office. These women know, people can talk integrity, morals, principles, but in the end people only respect one thing & that's money. With all the talk about education & community service an Alpha Kappa Alpha will snub a poor black person, especially a black man so fast flash Gordan wouldn't see it. Ronnette & others want everyone to focus on Anthony Smith meaningless nothing criminal record. Did he still millions from his own family? No! Anthony Smith really isn't even a criminal. But let people who haven't spoken to Anthony Smith in over 8 years, some of these people it's been over a decade, folks like  Ronnette Ronni Burkes, Andrea Orlette Dent, Shanton Shan the federal informant relative of there's & others tell it Anthony Smith has a sever mental illness & a criminal because he know these folks helped an informant & was stalking him in several different states.  

Ronnette Ronni Burkes, Andrea Orlette Dent Smith & others wanna spread gossip about Anthony Smith so called criminal record which is basically about nothing. It's funny, just in the 90's Ronnette Ronni Burkes use to talk about Andrea like she was on crack. Let's talk about their prestigious organizations the Freemason & Order of the Eastern Star corruption. They act like Anthony is crooked & they're perfect squares. What about A confidential "Interim Report of the Special Investigative Committee of the Joint Boards of Shriners Hospitals for Children" describes how immediate past potentate Bernard Lemieux appointed a committee to investigate the conduct of Shriner leaders, Ralph Semb, Chairman of the Shriners Hospitals for Children Board of Trustees and Gene Bracewell, Imperial Treasurer Shriners International Imperial Divan? What about the report that revealed how Semb & Bracewell pushed hard for continued contracts with one specific fund-raising company, Vantage Direct Marketing Services? Vantage raised over $46 million between 1999 and 2003 on behalf of SHC with only $2.5 million going to the hospitals. So basically if someone donated $100 during these campaigns, $95 was kept by Vantage with only $5 going to the hospitals.

I can go a lot more deeper here. They can't get Anthony Smith arrested so they make up other rumors about sick shit, masturbation, STD, HIV, bisexual, gay rumors that never will come back to their fraternal organization. Mental illness my a$$. 

Is a Brother off the track?

Try the Square;
Try it well on every side.
Nothing draws a craftsman back
Like the Square when well applied.
Try the Square.

Is he crooked, is he frail?
Try the Square;
Try it early, try it late;
When all other efforts fail,
Try the Square to make him straight -
Try the Square.

So why did Anthony Smith sister Andrea Orlette Dent Smith contact Anthony Smith public defender & tell his
office Anthony Smith is suffering from a mental illness? How does Andrea arrive at this notion when she haven't spoken to Anthony Smith for over 6 year & what make Andrea an expert on mental illness? Anthony wasn't even charged with anything & was released that day.
Andrea should go back to telling her friends & people Anthony haven't seen since grade school & Jr. High school those rumors. Andrea think by going behind Anthony Smith back trying to find out things about Anthony by speaking to people Anthony hardly even speak to is suppose to mean something. Andrea is really trying to figure out if Anthony is telling people that she helped an informant.  Andrea try & act as if she got love for Anthony. Anthony don't tell Andrea & her mother anything because these people ant kosher & are as fake as that online degree Andrea has. Besides, don't Andrea Dent Orlette Dent Smith have a past criminal record? I wonder if the Girl Scouts of America her daughter belong to know that? Don't Andrea Orlette Dent Smith have a past drug addiction? I wonder if the Girl Scouts of America know that? Didn't Andrea Orlette Dent Smith get fired from several past jobs for stealing? I wonder if the Girl Scouts of America know that? Back in the days didn't Andrea Orlette Dent Smith try & use her brother social security number to get a credit card? Andrea did this without her brother knowing about it while he was in the Air Force. Her brother wouldn't even really speak to her in the 90's & know they cool? Now Andrea Orlette Dent Smith is lil' Ms. innocent.


After reading this, I don't think that Anthony Smith believe they stole his lottery ticket, at least he hope not, but it's known by many that Shanton is a federal informant & you could make a connection to the women mentioned & Shanton the federal informant, Ronette Roni Burkes & Andrea Dent Smith being Shanton cousin.

Say your ex-girlfriend is a lesbian & don't care if men don't like her, but she has enough money, credit & equity that even if men don't find her attractive they will still kiss her ass for the love of money.

Say this lesbian wanna stop another woman from ever making you happy.

How will she go about this?

Well, there's a lot of things she could say about you other women could find interesting or not so interesting. Women collective rumor creativity.


Don't think so?
Do I have to add the resources these women have?

Women love a man that can keep a secret. What other men can keep a secret better than closet bisexuals & gays with kids or kids & a family. With the help of secret prestigious bisexual men that belong to the same organization order as the lesbian women they could do a lot of damage. Not to mention the support from the heterosexual community that will support them not knowing the people they're helping are lesbians, bisexuals & gays.


I think it's pretty pathetic for them to use university security & college students to spread around that Anthony Smith use college campuses like a hotel. Is that the best they can do to get people not to speak to Anthony Smith? I guess they have very good reason to try & get people not to speak to Anthony Smith.

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Ha! Ha! They're trying to talk this shit about Anthony Smith so-called freeloading because they can't have Anthony removed from places he frequently visit. Ha! Ha! Cleveland State is a State ran institution not a privet school. Ha! Ha! Starbucks & other places are designed for costumers to be comfortable that's the whole purpose. Ha! Ha! These spineless cowards want stand in the same room as Anthony Smith, definitely not a privet room, but try & get chatter & rumors going. They even went as far as to phone the local police like someone have a relative that's lost that has a mental illness walking around with warrants. Let's see how far that get ya"ll. No local police are gonna stop Anthony Smith & ask him questions. The police have better things to do & Anthony Smith personally feel police officers, firefighters & teachers shouldn't have to pay for meals one day out a month when on duty, not kissing ass, but that's something a lot of people feel, plus a pay raise. Shanton Shan Cassell, Andrea Dent Smith, Ronette Ronni Burkes, Heather Wall & Ro Burks & others need to find another way to get under Anthony Smith skin. Ro, you think you can get close to somebody else other than Anthony brother who Anthony hasn't spoken to in over 15 years or Juan Toney who hasn't spoken to in over 10 years? So who will ya"ll try to manipulate next?    
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A comprehensive resource on criminal informants: legal developments, legislation, news stories, cultural reactions, commentary and more....


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Think about this, the above topic is true & if someone bring the true to light than a lot of folks will be out of a JOB! I'm  talking about agents, special agents, lawyers, doctors, psychologist, judges & more importantly folks we don't know about, spending a long time in prison. Hell, some of them are very old so they would die in prison, not to mention their families. Ladies & gentlemen that's a tremendous amount of prestigious, illustrious folks that could suffer. Do u really think that would happen? Anthony Smith would be crucified in the court of public opinion & burned in the court of public opinion before they let the true come out. We all know that the Federal & State government, drug task force, the DEA, ATF, US Marshals, FBI & CIA & any other alphabet soup agency will literally create a state & federal informant to look like a high roller street Boss or street legend. They love & have a bigger climax, excitement, orgasm off of crime figures, Bosses, the Mafia, drug lords, gang leaders, high level, mid level street drug dealers. It's got to the point where they create the deception of Bosses, the Mafia, drug lords, gang leaders, high level high rollers, mid level street drug dealers, associates, soldiers, capos, skippers  captains, consiglieres, underbosses, bosses & Boss of all so-called bosses, lol, all to confuse the eye to control the understanding. Who is profiting the most? Who? 
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Shanton is not a Mastermind criminal with a high IQ. Shanton is just a federal informant so he has resources. Shan want be caught because he's a federal informant, but others that work with him will. Shan don't mind trying to make people go through the same experiences he went through, like going to prison & smoking prems, weed mixed with crack cocaine. Shan think he can create problems in people lives like they gone turn to crack. lol. Shan ant shit! Like most police departments across the State Cleveland, Ohio police department don't have that many officers working the auto theft unit so if a federal agent want to set-up a chop shop/auto body repair operation his informants are free to steal whatever car they want.
Don't believe me.

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/06/cleveland_man_helps_dismantle.html

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Shan going on 41 years old, but will drive around until he find out what Anthony Smith is wearing. Than Shan pathetic ass will go somewhere & strike up a conversation with someone like he just knocked out some nigga wearing this or wearing that or some nigga wearing this or wearing that just asked me for dope or he owe me money & hope it get around, but nobody ever see it happen.
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Who would stalk someone for over 10 years? 

Do you really think Anthony Smith is gonna commit suicide because of rumors & influence?

Remember, ya"ll are the weak ones that's just wasting money. To weak to find someone that could actually do the job for money & you're hoping that you can make folks upset at the mere presence of Anthony Smith based on rumors? lol. Someone else to do your dirty work? Spineless. I'm sure after I post this ya"ll are gonna come out & say how much you really want Anthony Smith to get his life together, how would you know if you haven't spoken to Anthony Smith in over a decade? Pray for a heart attack.lol. 
    
People embrace these people because of the big prestigious masquerade.
 

This is passed someones obsession & people not telling that person the true about themselves.


Why all the stalking? 

           

Well, there may have been a SUPER LOTTO TICKET worth millions that was taken from Anthony Smith back in 1999. The Super lotto ticket was in Anthony Smith truck back in 1999.

 

Back in 1998 Anthony Smith co-signed on a new truck while they were dating. In 1999 Heather Wall & Ronette Burkes & maybe others had Tri-C community college security remove Anthony Smith truck from a parking garage when he was in class. The lottery ticket was in the truck back in August of 1999. Maybe Heather Wall got the ticket, maybe Ronette Burkes, maybe others were there like Ro Burkes & Andre Smith. Maybe they split it up or maybe they kept it, but was generous with certain people.

Anthony Smith never thought about the ticket, t
he SUPER LOTTO TICKET was like the POWER BALL OR MEGA MILLION in Ohio back in the 90's, the Super Lotto just started at a lower jackpot  than the Mega Million & Powerball. Who thinks they're the lottery winner of millions of dollars? Anyway, back in 1999 Anthony Smith had a warrant out for unpaid traffic tickets at the time so he couldn't complain when approached by security SO HE GAVE THEM THE KEYS. We know Heather Wall & Ronette Burkes was there & maybe others.

 
Who is Heather Wall?

Heather Wall received a B.A. from Ursuline college in psychology and a Master degree from Case Western University in Social Work in 1998. Heather Wall try & make Anthony Smith out to look like a imbecile, but he was helping her with her homework when she was going to CWRU trying to earn her Masters. Actually he helped her with one research paper. Of course, like most high yellow or lighter skinned black people with white people in their family Heather hope she can play off Anthony Smith looks because Anthony is black & have strong facial features.

Previously before dating Anthony Smith Heather Wall was ordered by a judge in Cleveland, Ohio to undergo psychological evaluation at the Cleveland Date Rape Center because Heather tried to get a man convicted & in doing so Heather was trying to take away that person self-esteem & how he valued himself. I bet Heather Wall tried doing those soap opera Caucasian women crocodile tears she's very good at doing. love the drama, but this time it didn't work & nobody was kissing her ass or falling for the victim BULLSHIT! This girl would tape soap operas & rehearse. This girl would tape soap operas & rehearse. This girl would tape soap operas & rehearse. I say that to say, a lot of folks love crocodile tears & drama & sometime folks can create those crocodile tears & drama for attention. 

Heather Hall may look like she's not threatening, not even verbally so Heather Wall understand her strength when dealing with people she wanna control. I really don't think Heather Wall was or is suffering from a mental illness when a Judge
ordered heather Wall to undergo psychological evaluation at the Cleveland Date Rape Center back in 1996 or 1997. Why do I say that? Because Heather Wall know how to turn her emotions on & off. Heather Wall know how to think fast & she know people are controlled by money & influence & her influence was her degree at the time. Deep down inside Heather Wall is very insecure. Heather Wall strongly believe that men only love her because she has a degree. That's not the case, but it's what she believe. Heather Wall clearly understand that white folks, like every other race only respect money. Heather Wall know the key to control most people is through money & what you could possibly do for them or give them the oppression that you're gonna do something for them. That always set-up the puppet & the puppet master.  

In Heather Wall case, having her hair pulled once for a couple of seconds in 9 months is not being in a abusive relationship.
I doubt Anthony Smith is like Ike Turner.

Hell, Anthony wasn't even verbally abusive to Heather Wall, Anthony never tried to contact Heather Wall after the relationship was over back in 1999. Abusive my ass! The
fact of the matter, after Heather hair was pulled, for a couple of seconds, Heather Wall stayed in the relationship for a month until Anthony Smith left his 40g's a year job & than that's when Heather Wall left.

People can fake character & prestigiousness with money. Degrees & a none criminal record don't make you innocent & honorable, it just make u appear to be.

Anthony Smith & Heather Wall didn't have a business together, they didn't have children & they wasn't engaged or married or anything else other than just dating & they had no contact at all what's so ever after the relationship was over. Not sure Heather Wall wanna be in Anthony Smith life, but she knows that's impossible after she stalked the man. We do know Heather Wall tries to interfere in Anthony Smith life, it doesn't matter if someone is manipulated to interfere in Anthony Smith life, to be their mouthpiece & puppets or if a privet investigator is used or both. We do know this is done very sneaky & spineless. It's made to look like a service to the community, that's why all the lies about Anthony Smith need to get around to the right people.
I don't know, maybe Heather think she was the best thing that happened to Anthony Smith, but she was far from it, no matter how many women they try & stop from dating or speaking with Anthony Smith by using puppets.

I don't know maybe Heather would have like to think she was the best thing that happened to someone who didn't give a shit about her after the relationship was because of her actions & who she is a person & her character as a person & she knows that so she try & force the person to think about her. It's hard for someone like Heather Wall to understand that it's not about replacing her. Anthony Smith & Heather Wall didn't have a business together, they didn't have children & they wasn't engaged or married anything else other than just dating & they had no contact at all what's so ever after the relationship was over.

At the Cleveland Date Rape Center Heather Wall
 met Ronette Burkes. Ronette is also Anthony cousin, we will get to Ronette in a minute. Heather Wall left a open letter out on her dresser in her bedroom from the Cleveland Date Rape Center stating that Heather Wall strongly needed to come back and finish her psychological evaluation. People like Anthony Smith saw the letter & thought she was a volunteer, before reading it. Anthony should have known Heather Wall is not upper class, she's a phony & spineless person. Anthony Smith, well less just say Anthony Smith DO NOT NEED A PENIS ENLARGEMENT, was enough to have Heather Wall begging crying every time Anthony Smith broke up with her. Trying to make jokes about a man's penis after the relationship has been over for over a decade is so much Heather Wall I can't even explain.

 

Heather Wall started telling people Anthony Smith was beating on her because she knew he wanted out of the relationship & also because he co-signed on a new truck. It would appear that she couldn't keep a man because of her past drama & low self esteem. Did Anthony beat Heather? Out of 9 months of dating Anthony pulled her hair  one time for a second & grabbed her onetime. No smacks, no punches & no verbal abuse. Anthony really didn't know anything about Heather Wall mental illness. 


Anthony knew nothing about schizophrenia,erotomania, bipolar disorder, psychosis. Heather Wall also became very possessive and very emotional all the time. Heather would ask Anthony to spend the night, even though he worked long hours. Anthony Smith had just received a promotion after someone at his corporation retired. Heather Wall was unemployed & was living at home with her mother. Heather Wall mother worked at a grocery store.

 

Anthony Smith & Heather Wall broke-up in 1999 & they had no contact with each other. No phone calls, no letters in the mail,no e-mails. No contact at all. So how did Heather Wall know Anthony Smith was in Cali & to find him at UCLA?

 

Heather Wall stalked Anthony & at onetime tried to walk- up on Anthony. Anthony kept it moving & never tried to speak. After that Anthony thought very low of her. When I say low I mean the lowest piece of sh$t.                       

 

Heather Wall panicked after being exposed as a stalker in 2004 in Cali at UCLA & other States so Heather had people spread a rumor that she died from sickle cell anemia. DRAMA!!! Heather Wall stalked Anthony Smith after her so-called death in other States like Temple University. Anthony was on his way back to New York & saw a limo he saw before earlier so he walked up on the limo. It was at night, but he could see there was no driver inside so he looked through the window without the tint & he could see heather Wall wearing a black dress & someone else hiding in the back. Heather Wall jumped up in the driver seat & tried to lock the door. They never got out so Anthony took a photo of the plates.

 

I think Anthony contacted Mr. Wansky at the Cleveland FBI office because he was dealing with people with government resources & they are highly educated & belong to large organizations, sororities & fraternities. Soon after that Anthony was stopped by local police & was held for about an hour & the photo of the limo & limo license plates & other photos of Anthony Smith in New York & DC was missing from his camera & laptop. Also, paperwork was missing from Anthony property.                   

I don't have all the facts, but there was talk about Anthony Smith pursuing a contract that was worth 6 figures that could have tuned into 7 or 8 figures Cali & maybe New York, but how would they have known that?    

Heather appear to be an intimacy stalker or a resentful stalker. And someone that will play people of different ethnic backgrounds when it suits her. White & black people don't care as long as she don't go broke. They will help her & support her.

 
Most women don't see men accused of crimes they didn't commit as victims, they view them as necessary collateral damage,
appropriate payback. Public opinion. A lot of men think that want happen to me because how I treat my woman or lady. Not so, you never know how deep a woman is hurt or embarrassed after you leave her. Some of these women look at it as payback for patriarchy.

Again, why all the stalking? 

           

Well there may have been a SUPER LOTTO TICKET that was taken from Anthony Smith back in 1999.

 

Back in 1998 Anthony Smith co-signed on a new truck while they were dating. In 1999 they had the community college security remove Anthony Smith truck from a parking garage when he was in class. The lottery ticket was in the truck back in August of 1999. He never thought about the ticket because nobody win those million dollar tickets. The SUPER LOTTO TICKET WAS LIKE THE POWER BALL OR MEGA MILLION IN OHIO BACK IN THE 90'S. Anthony Smith had a warrant out for unpaid traffic tickets at the time so he couldn't complain when approached by security SO HE GAVE THEM THE KEYS. We know Heather Wall was there & Ronette Burkes was there.

Ant nobody worried about Ronnette Roni Burkes brother Ro Burkes. Ro Burkes a spoiled SOB that grew working as a fast food manager. Ro always tried to pretend to be a street baller. Sure, Ro can dress up the part with fur coats & Ro & Ronnette do have cousins that sold weight, but Ro is a spoiled 46 year old that got a lil' family inheritance to keep that street perception & he also is a great liar. 

Of course, Alpha Kappa Alpha, Ronette Ronni Burkes is super prestigious being related to Ceaser Burkes who owned a fast food franchises since the 70's. Ronette Ronni Burkes grew-up around all white folks so she's super prestigious. We know Ronette Ronie Burkes, Alpha Kappa Alpha, don't have a criminal record & can be trusted. What a minute, didn't  Barbara McKinzie, Alpha Kappa Alpha President, misappropriated funds & commission a $900,000 wax figure of herself? She's also accused of taking nearly $400,000 for personal expenses and arranging for a $4,000 monthly stipend to be paid to herself after she leaves office. These women know, people can talk integrity, morals, principles, but in the end people only respect one thing & that's money. With all the talk about education & community service an Alpha Kappa Alpha will snub a poor black person, especially a black man so fast flash Gordan wouldn't see it. Ronette & others want everyone to focus on Anthony Smith meaningless nothing criminal record. Did he still millions from his own family? No! Anthony Smith really isn't even a criminal. But let people who haven't spoken to Anthony Smith in over 8 years, some of these people it's been over a decade, folks like  Ronnette Ronni Burkes, Andrea Orlette Dent, Shanton Shan the federal informant relative of there's & others tell it Anthony Smith has a sever mental illness & a criminal because he know these folks helped an informant & was stalking him in several different states.  

Ronnette Ronni Burkes, Andrea Orlette Dent Smith & others wanna spread gossip about Anthony Smith so called criminal record which is basically about nothing. Andrea Dent Smith is Anthony sister, but talk about Anthony Smith like he's her ex-boyfriend or something. What's up with that Andrea? They haven't seen each other or spoken in over 5 years & she's working over time to try & convince people Anthony is crazy because he know she was helping their federal informant cousin. How many undergrads do they try & contact to stir up stuff about Anthony Smith?

Let's talk about their prestigious organizations the Freemason & Order of the Eastern Star corruption. They act like Anthony is crooked & they're perfect squares. What about A confidential "Interim Report of the Special Investigative Committee of the Joint Boards of Shriners Hospitals for Children" describes how immediate past potentate Bernard Lemieux appointed a committee to investigate the conduct of Shriner leaders, Ralph Semb, Chairman of the Shriners Hospitals for Children Board of Trustees and Gene Bracewell, Imperial Treasurer Shriners International Imperial Divan? What about the report that revealed how Semb & Bracewell pushed hard for continued contracts with one specific fund-raising company, Vantage Direct Marketing Services? Vantage raised over $46 million between 1999 and 2003 on behalf of SHC with only $2.5 million going to the hospitals. So basically if someone donated $100 during these campaigns, $95 was kept by Vantage with only $5 going to the hospitals.


I can go a lot more deeper here. They can't get Anthony Smith arrested so they make up other rumors about sick shit, masturbation, STD, HIV, bisexual, gay rumors that never will come back to their fraternal organization. Mental illness my a$$. 

Is a Brother off the track?

Try the Square;
Try it well on every side.
Nothing draws a craftsman back
Like the Square when well applied.
Try the Square.

Is he crooked, is he frail?
Try the Square;
Try it early, try it late;
When all other efforts fail,
Try the Square to make him straight -
Try the Square.

So why did Anthony Smith sister Andrea Orlette Dent Smith contact Anthony Smith public defender & tell his
office Anthony Smith is suffering from a mental illness? How does Andrea arrive at this notion when she haven't spoken to Anthony Smith for over 6 year & what make Andrea an expert on mental illness? Anthony wasn't even charged with anything & was released that day.
Andrea should go back to telling her friends & people Anthony haven't seen since grade school & Jr. High school those rumors. Andrea think by going behind Anthony Smith back trying to find out things about Anthony by speaking to people Anthony hardly even speak to is suppose to mean something. Andrea is really trying to figure out if Anthony is telling people that she helped an informant.  Andrea try & act as if she got love for Anthony. Anthony don't tell Andrea & her mother anything because these people ant kosher & are as fake as that online degree Andrea has. Besides, don't Andrea Dent Orlette Dent Smith have a past criminal record? I wonder if the Girl Scouts of America her daughter belong to know that? Don't Andrea Orlette Dent Smith have a past drug addiction? I wonder if the Girl Scouts of America know that? Didn't Andrea Orlette Dent Smith get fired from several past jobs for stealing? I wonder if the Girl Scouts of America know that? Back in the days didn't Andrea Orlette Dent Smith try & use her brother social security number to get a credit card? Andrea did this without her brother knowing about it while he was in the Air Force. Her brother wouldn't even really speak to her in the 90's & know they cool? Now Andrea Orlette Dent Smith is lil' Ms. innocent.


After reading this, I don't think that Anthony Smith believe they stole his lottery ticket, at least he hope not, but it's known by many that Shanton is a federal informant & you could make a connection to the women mentioned & Shanton the federal informant, Ronette Roni Burkes & Andrea Dent Smith being Shanton cousin.

Say your ex-girlfriend is a lesbian & don't care if men don't like her, but she has enough money, credit & equity that even if men don't find her attractive they will still kiss her ass for the love of money.

Say this lesbian wanna stop another woman from ever making you happy.

How will she go about this?

Well, there's a lot of things she could say about you other women could find interesting or not so interesting. Women collective rumor creativity.


Don't think so?
Do I have to add the resources these women have?

Women love a man that can keep a secret. What other men can keep a secret better than closet bisexuals & gays with kids or kids & a family. With the help of secret prestigious bisexual men that belong to the same organization order as the lesbian women they could do a lot of damage. Not to mention the support from the heterosexual community that will support them not knowing the people they're helping are lesbians, bisexuals & gays.

 

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Juan can talk all the shit he want, but he know where Anthony Smith work out at & that's Cleveland State Rec.. Just like that federal informant relative & others not to mention the state & federal government & crazy ass ex-girlfriend knew for over a year now that Anthony Smith workout at Cleveland State rec.. Do Anthony Smith know where they at or what they do on a daily bases. No! Because Anthony Smith don't ask about them. When Juan sent someone to try & act like it's all good & told someone at Cleveland State Rec. tell Anthony Smith to call him Anthony Smith said fuck Juan & kept with the original conversation that had nothing to do with Juan. Juan think by spreading rumors his bisexual ass is stopping Anthony Smith from being with a lady. lol. Let me tell you about Juan. This is a brother who befriend people, learn from them, which is cool, but than Juan would act like he's the original. I don't know if they still married, but Juan swear back in the daze that Anthony Smith was attracted to his wife, but Anthony never knew this woman & never thought about the woman & didn't know anything about the woman & never asked about the woman. I do know Juan tried a lil' too hard to down grade people that treated him like a friend to get this woman. Of course this was done behind everyone back Juan spoke about with malice. Juan is not confrontational. Juan is manipulative by trying to act clean as water so Juan try & get others not to like that person he have a problem with. You give the image of being 110$% legit than who wouldn't love that? That's why Juan was so attracted to the Masonic Order, it's power in numbers & one can control numbers.  

Juan Toney may not be a informant(snitch), but at the same time, it's all shapes & forms. Like secretly trying to report folks to the IRS to collect a check. Juan may not be a snitch, but he is someone that stabbed Anthony Smith in the back & than tried to smile in his face. Juan & Anthony may not have spoken in over 10 years, but Juan do associate with Ro Burkes mentioned in the post.

Juan Toney the so-called Guru, has no degrees only certificates. Juan has learned, like a lady with a nice body, to use what he got to get what he want. Juan started out as a salesman in the mall & a gym so he think he can run his mouth better than anyone. I don't know if Juan is a snitch. I"ll give Juan credit he changed his life around from smoking pot, getting drunk on a regular bases even while working at GNC & Bally Total Fitness he smoked & drank heavy. Some can say fraud & deceiver from the opening gate, but I believe Juan believes in Juan Toney. Juan is no different than any other good salesman. His main concern is sales. Juan learned this from being a sales representative with Bally Total Fitness Center. The more you sale the more you earn for yourself. That's the true reward, not seeing someone in great shape. You keep that person motivated so they will keep a membership & bring others that will get the most expensive membership. Let Juan tell it he ran Bally Total Fitness, I don't think any of the members on the chairmen of the board at Bally Total Fitness remember seeing Juan in any meetings. How do you go from a salesmen to running the gym? The highest position he had was a GM position. Juan make it seem like he was President at Bally Total Fitness & other Fitness center chains. The gym Juan has today wasn't even rated one of Cleveland, Ohio best gyms. Juan is more salesman than guru. Juan clearly understand that positivity, health, looking fit & spirituality is a very, very easy sale. You just have to target the people that can afford. I know people with degrees in Health Sciences & Masters in Exercise Science along with having certificates in fitness instructor, Personal Trainer, Master Personal Trainer, Sports Nutrition, Weight Management, Cardio Kickboxing, Cycle Instructor & Yoga Instructor & they don't claim to be a guru & they are nowhere near able to open a gym. Maybe they should talk to Juan Toney. Juan can kiss ass & has a gift for running his mouth so his ability as a sales person to call everyone on the phone asking them them to work out paid off. Who doesn't love fitness? It looked like he was motivating others so he can earn the position as Assistant Manager.

To be a Shriner means you can afford the due money to sit in Shriner lodges, Grand lodges & other lodges passed the 3rd degree, if you can pay for it. If you're a 32 degree it means you will receive your 33rd degree because you can afford to pay dues to sit in the 32 degree lodges. So that means you can afford to sit in the Shriner lodges. As long as you can afford it they will move you up in degrees, even if you don't read your ritual book that much. You see, if you make enough money the Grand & district lodges feel they have enough members to reach the none members when they spread gossip & rumors to protect a members. Did know that was in the blueprint when The Scottish Rite Freemasons, York Rite Freemasons & Order of the Eastern Star organization started their foundation. Hell, even if you don't have money & you look attractive to certain members they will protect you & finance you, but it will cost you , but that's secret outside the walls of the lodges, district lodges & Grand lodges. lol.

If any Freemason ever try & act like they out rank you because they have more degrees than them challenge them in the boxing ring or beat their ass. I say that because you let them know they DO NOT DOMINATE YOU BECAUSE OF THEIR LEVEL OF DEGREES OR WHAT THEY READ! Masonic is a enlightened experience that's a life time experience is not for members t play puppet master over you or dominate you in any way shape or form. Some Freemasons are bitches that have female tendencies, but they can't see it. Belonging to the Order they feel it's a society they think they can rule over people. lol. 

If any Freemason ever try & act like they out rank you because they have more degrees than them challenge them in the boxing ring or beat their ass. I say that because you let them know they DO NOT DOMINATE YOU BECAUSE OF WHAT LEVEL OF DEGREE THEY HAVE OR BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY READ! Masonic is a enlightened experience that's a life time experience is not for members to play puppet master over you or dominate you in any way shape or form. Some Freemasons are bitches, they have female tendencies, but they can't see it. Belonging to the Order they feel it's a society they think they can rule over people. lol.

YOU'RE NOT INVINCIBLE & YOUR NOT THAT SMART, U JUST A BITCH WHO GOT ABS! EVERYBODY LOVE ABS. U LIKE A BITCH WHO CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES SO THEY WANT A REAL MAN TO THROW THE PUNCH FOR THEM. I SEE U FOUND ANOTHER ORGANIZATION WITH A LARGE MEMBERSHIP TO SPREAD YOUR BULLSHIT & HIDE BEHIND. lol. FIND A NEW WAY TO SELF PROMOTE YOURSELF OTHER THAN TRYING TO COMPARE YOURSELF TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO. YOU DIDN'T INVENT EXERCISING! 

Juan lived in Cleveland, Heights, Ohio, Bedford Heights, Ohio & Warrenville Height, Ohio. Juan grew up around black people & Juan identified himself as a black man. Juan mother is Hue complexion so Juan also identified  himself as Native American. Like so many other black people in America that have Caucasian in their blood they try & cover up or hide from their African roots by claiming Native American, like there's no light complexion Africans. A lot of black just claim Native American they never visited any Indian reservations & they're not concerned about Native American problems. 

Now this prima donna male Diva named Juan Toney is perpetrating to be Spanish saying, "Hola!" to everyone. lol.
Just because Anthony may speak in passing briefly to a few people Juan know don't mean anything, Anthony don't bring Juan name up & it will be in Juan better health not to approach. 

I'll give Juan credit because his gym in Solon, OH & I believe Hudson, OH are in communities that have houses with a median household income over $150,000. 

If you want to be a franchise owner with Fit Body Boot Camp you can fill out the "Expression of Interest" form like Juan. It's like an online application to own a gym.

http://www.myfitbodybootcamp.com/express-ownership-interest/

Juan is not on Ohio best rated gym list, but has learned from working at Bally Total Fitness that older professional white women, & mostly black women will pay anything to feel healthy & stay in shape.  It's not like Juan is opening gyms in Kinsman, St. Clair, 105th street, East Cleveland or the Harvard area those are communities in the hood. 

I'll also give Juan credit because he knows Michelle Obama launched a campaign called "Let's Move" eliminate the problem of childhood obesity. Soon after that Juan started mentioning obesity in his profile with Personal Trainer, Sports Nutritionist and renowned Personal Growth Enthusiast.
How come this Nutritionist have or had  a lot of friends that did time in prison? Why do a Nutritionist know so many drug dealers?

What did that one informant tell the news paper? Bray planned to increase his share of the drug market by bringing down rivals. The way to do that? Pass along information to the DEA that would be used to arrest the rivals. And if that didn't work, Bray could always lie about who was selling him the drugs. He set up people he hated, those who made fun of the chubby street dealer. I didn't know informants could setup people just because they hated them. For the rest of that story with the Cleveland news here-->>
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/06/drug_prosecutions_gone_wrong_t.html
  
I'm not here to dawg Juan, but Juan did backstab Anthony. I can see if Anthony was the one that approached Juan to be friends, but it was Juan that heard of Anthony & it was Juan that approached Anthony. Juan was working at a movie theater in Randall Mall, Anthony was hustling in E.C. before he decided to get a job to keep his mother happy & to prove he would stay out of trouble after his father passed. Matter of fact, Anthony took care of himself really after the age of 13, neither one of his parents was paying for shoes or clothes over a hundred dollars. Shit! Anthony was buying shoes in elementary school.

It was Juan that asked Anthony to be in some group called Club Legit in high school. Shit, Anthony didn't even go to their high school. Anthony wasn't initiated into this group like everybody else. Anthony use to initiate people into his groups since elementary school & Jr. high school. It was Juan that heard of Anthony, not Anthony that heard of Juan. It was Anthony that was doing talent shows since elementary school & Jr. high school. How many shows was they in before they met Anthony Smith? How popular were they before they met Anthony Smith? Were they just another local group before Anthony? Anthony never spoke about Club Legit after 1993. You talking about a high school group. Was people talking about this group in the 90's? No. Was people comparing one another in the 90's? No. That shit died in the early 90's. You talking about a group that wasn't even famous & didn't do that many shows. Basically, Anthony wasn't doing anything special, but being himself & having fun, it wasn't like he was representing anything. Juan & Anthony was friends from 1990-1993 & again in 1997-1999. We talking 3 years & 2 years. After that they barely spoke & haven't spoken since 2002. If Anthony was smart he would have known that Juan & Juan young jock boys in the group would call everyone one, especially girls from their school district to come to the club & support them. Anthony never made any calls like that & would walk in the club VIP & be himself & after the club was over he never called around to brag about turning the party out. It was Anthony who stopped hanging with them. Anthony really could have done the same thing with anybody else. Juan has gotten over in life without being tested based off popularity, popularity off who he knows. Most of Juan Club Legit brothers came from good homes & they were gonna make it in life without Juan. Juan has the ability to play on peoples ego's & than act like he had some kind of influence behind they back. Shit, all Juan use to do is get drunk & smoke dope with bruhs, how is that influencing them? Anthony didn't give a shit about kissing ass. Anthony had to micro manage personalities from 105th street to EC to Cleveland Heights, to Warrensville to Harvard & everywhere in between. Juan seek attention, Anthony didn't want the attention at that stage of his life. Anthony had the attention at a earlier age waaaaaaaay before he met Juan & was ready to move on before his life was turned up side down. Anthony Smith is not worried about a male diva prima donna like Juan Toney.  In fact, Juan should keep Anthony Smith name out his mouth. Juan shouldn't try & send people to reach out to Anthony Smith. Juan shouldn't send women to tell Anthony Smith to call him. 
    
You know the freemasons slogan?  If you got a buck than you got a bro.. If you got two bucks than you got a sister. Anyone who believes they are a Christian & a Free-Mason is deceived because they're serving two Gods. Are they Hindu?  "No man comes to the Father, but by Me," if one depends upon good works to be accepted by the "Great Architect of the Universe" (NOT Jehovah!) and thereby be allowed to enter into the celestial kingdom, condemns a person to Hell. There's a lot of quoting from the Bible in these houses, lodges or Temples. There's a lot of hypocrites. You see a lot of these guys with shaved heads, where in the Bible or the Qur'an does it say you must have a bold head & muscles? lol.
 
Two balls & a cain? I know this sound petty, but I checked every since Juan was a lil' kid he ant never fought his own battles, even after he was punched in the face in front of all his friends Juan would look around for help. Juan is spoiled. Juan would sneak around & try to turn people against the people he don't like or don't like him. Juan would especially try & turn women against the guy. He"ll do it in a way where it want come back to him.

Juan will try & play a leader role even though no one ever took orders from Juan, they just basically hung out with him. A lot of Freemason members are manipulated easily because they want to belong to something. Especially, since most black people have friends & family that are Freemasons. The number is double in the white community of Freemasons. Meaning, you have a friend or family member they can always make money off of & you also have a friend or family member that will vouch for them so they can make more money off other people outside the Masonic organization. It's their version of networking, kinda, that's cool. You know the Freemason slogan, "IF YOU GOT A BUCK, THAN YOU GOT A BRO." "IF YOU GOT TWO BUCKS, THAN YOU DEFINITELY GOT A SISTER."
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Juan Toney is from Warrensville, Hts. a suburb in Cleveland, Ohio. It only took Juan 6 years to grad. from Warrensville High school. Juan was too busy trying to recruit young guys that dressed preppy to join some group they had. Juan never worked out as a teenager & would drink & get high on a regular bases & was skinny. Juan also dressed in drag a couple of times along with his friends in high school. Juan being a fraud started at a young age, Juan would act like a preppy conservative looking kid from the suburb, but he was really a poor kid. Juan mother who's a very nice lady allowed all of Juan friends to hang out at her house, unlike many of the other parents.

Juan began his pagan worshiping as a Freemasons in the late 90's. It's one of those bogus lodges operating with a Grand lodge, but since some bogus lodges have been operating for decades it's hard for people to know. The lost of bogus lodges is not up to date because they grow fast & go unnoticed for years & in some cases decades.
 
Juan has always been a lil' bit of a follower that can act like a leader after he kiss your ass enough. Juan was raised to the 3rd degree as an International Mason. Juan was raised to a 33rd degree Freemason in King Solomon num. 5#. A International Masonic Lodge.

Even though they were seen as a Bogus lodge they were still some good Bruhs in that lodge. Juan took memory pills to remember the ritual and the bible to impress other members. A ritual book that's top secret, that you can find at some Muslim book stores or online. Juan went out and got his old high school friends & Bally's members at the gym to join King Solomon 5 # & the Supreme Order of the Amaranth. Juan Toney is now a Prince Hall Mason & have a tattoo of the Shriner emblem on his chest. Juan is all hype looking for a stage platform or pedestal.

A lot of members are manipulated easily because they wanna belong to something. Especially, since most black people have friends & family that are Freemasons. Meaning, you have a friend or family member they can always make money off of & you also have a friend or family member that will vouch for them so they can make more money off other people outside the Masonic organization. You know the Freemason slogan, "IF YOU GOT A BUCK, THAN YOU GOT A BRO." "IF YOU GOT TWO BUCKS, THAN YOU DEFINITELY GOT A SISTER."

Most groups & organizations with a very large membership have very vast membership. Freemasons or Eastern Star organizations, Scottish Rite Masons & York Rite, Black people, White people Latinos or foreigners can sit in both loges or houses & hold different titles. Don't get me wrong, you will never see a black person admitted into an Italian lodge. Most white people lodges don't admit blacks, but some do. Most of all black lodges will admit anyone. The Freemasons see what they want u to see. If they wanna show u intellectual, illustrious, honorable members they have a long list of them if you can afford to sit in the same lodge, but they also have a long list of members that's struggling & not of the elite class, these are the members they don't want people to see, but it make up most of their membership. A dollar here, BYOB Cabaret party there. Some kind of Church function dollar two there, raffle, bingo or underground card party there. Members never ask where their dollar last stop will be, especially when the Church or Church members are involved. We all know in the history of the United States there have never been a bisexual Rev. Pastor or Preacher  or a corrupt Church or Church members. lol. I guess that's why some Freemasons members stick to members in law enforcement, Rev., Pastors & Deacons it make them look squeaky clean & non manipulative & of course anyone attack them than the Rev., Pastors, Deacons & other members with a tremendous amount of influence will protect them. Seen it before, people do it all the time.    

Here's Juan. The before photo was after working at Bally Total Fitness for over 10 years. So that mean out of the 10 plus years of being a Guru at Bally Total Fitness Juan realized everybody he trained he was being training the wrong way, including himself.


Here's Juan Toney version
Born and raised in Cleveland, Ohio, and the proud father of 4-year old twin girls, Juan Toney, is a certified Personal Trainer, Sports Nutritionist and renowned Personal Growth Enthusiast who has been changing lives since 1995. Acquiring his first set of dumb bells at the age of 11, Juan became aware of his innate ability to transform his own physique. Like I said Juan was skinny as a teenager 7 didn't start working out until he got the job at Ballys, he was 23 or 24. He officially began his career in the health and sports nutrition field while working at GNC basically Juan was & alot of other people would hang at the mall so finding a job at the mall was the in thing, the mall is where everyone would hang. So basically Juan walked in GMC & asked for an application because it was a gravy job & because he couldn't get a job at the Gap. and in 1996, decided to pursue his passion as a Sales Representative with Bally's Fitness Center in Strongsville, Again, a gravy job that only required you to talk on the phone which he enjoyed running his mouth & working out he knew everybody enjoyed working out & it would enhance his Diva image. After 3 short months, the combination of Juan's sales records and ability to motivate others earned him the position of Assistant Manager, which was quickly followed by General Manager only 6 months later. Clearly defined as an avid lover of health and fitness, Juan continued to explore opportunities as a District Manager with companies such as Fitworks, California Fitness and Lifestyle Family Fitness located in Columbus, Ohio.

Returning to his roots in Cleveland, Juan became the founder of “Juan's Way with Willpower” in 2007. This was his platform for manipulating older Eastern Star members who were out of shape into believing in his fusing personal training, customized meal plans, and fitness classes that targeted resistance, stability, and core strengthening in a privately owned gym. However, after literally completing one million customer profiles over the course of 15 years, he noticed that the failure associated with weight loss was a direct result of the disconnection between mind/body consciousness. Believing that the inner world creates the outer world, Juan was inspired to launch the “Fit 4Ever Academy”, which focuses on a healthy mind and body regimen, blended with his very own PST (Positive Self Talk) program, like I said he like to run his mouth.

Today clients are more than likely older successful out of shape white women that can afford membership & need someone to build there self-esteem. Juan use a lot from self esteem books. These people, mostly women, need motivational speaking. They believe they are achieving their goal of being fit forever. When they could work out out doors & read a book on eating Healthy but in Ohio the Masons & Eastern Star members will manipulate each other, because most of them have small businesses for one reason to make a buck!
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Lower-level Mason are misled by false interpretations & again, not all lodges nor do all masons involved try to mislead by false interpretations. So if you have a family member are friend or you yourself belong to a lodge don't get offended, but be aware.

Unless the culture and nuances of language were known to the translators, errors in interpretation could easily be made. I mention this because religion is used a lot as a master tool for manipulation. Folks always have their shield down & are willing to trust someone when others are masters at interpreting the bible, it's even worse when that person truly believes in what he or she is doing. This is how individuals or groups of individuals in secret societies try & manipulate religion in order to justify their cause in order to manipulate others & at the same time they're manipulating the organization sorority or fraternity they belong to as a member. They appear as well known, respected prestigious, illustrious members, hard working mentors &  partners, brothers & sisters. They will try & bring you closer to Christ or build a stronger relationship with others that share the same love & spiritual bond with God. Through secret doctrines and initiations the manipulation begin.

Juan Toney is a bisexual & I don't give a shit about his Masonic practice, but if he is that's his business. What I'm saying is that u can see how easy it is for many to manipulate & translate errors in interpretation of something quoted in the Bible. 

Quote:
Jesus said " When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside, and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female.....then you will enter the Kingdom ".

A ritual garment worn by a Sumerian gender-variant priest, in the Bible the coat survives but the context does not. It seems clear for example that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was actually a tale re-moulded by the scribes to suggest a battle between two religious traditions that of the town of Sodom or Qadesh and the warrior cult of Yahweh. There are many other Biblical examples, certainly the homo-erotic relationship between David and Jonathan in the Old Testament come to mind.

In the white Scottish Rite lodges Aryan traditions suggest a special elite homosexual priestly class. The Epic of Gilgamesh has a special relationship between Gilgamesh and Enkidu, the Druids and Celts were renowned for homosexual priest activity and certainly the Shaman traditions of early cultures focused on gender variant activity.

 "The word 'sodomite' is not found in the original Hebrew, nor is it found in the Greek. It was not until AFTER the rise of the hierarchy in the institutional Church that the account of Sodom and Gomorrah began to be equated with homosexuality. The word 'sodomite' then came into use. If the truth be known, the original use of this word referred simply to a person who was a resident of Sodom."

See:
In chapter 13 of her book, Love, the Law of the Angels, Gwen Shaw introduces the Gnostic concept that God is androgynous.

“God is not only ‘male,’ He is ‘female.’ One of His names is El-Shaddai, which means ‘Mother-God.’ We see the completeness of God only as we realize this truth. He is both male and female… So when God created Adam, He made him like himself, creating in him the male and female characteristics.” (Love, the Law of the Angels, p. 67)

Chapter 23 begins with a passage from a Quaker book, Feminine Aspects of Divinity, which sexualizes the Holy Spirit as a feminine deity:

“In the first few centuries A.D. Aramaic versions of the Old Testament introduced the word ‘Shekinah as a reverent circumlocution for God. In Exodus 25:8 an ancient translation reads, ‘I will let my Shekinah dwell among the children of Israel.’

“‘It is interesting to notice that the Shekinah is referred to as feminine in more than a grammatical sense from the third century on. The Shekinah is called 'she.' 'She' is spoken of as being omnipresent in the world, but more often 'she' is physically localized. The Jerusalem temple was built to be 'her' permanent home. When this temple was desecrated and destroyed, Ezekiel saw 'her' move out from the Holy of Holies and stand over the threshold of the house (Ezekiel 10:4) Jewish history tells us that the Shekinah wandered to the Mt. of Olives or into the desert and waited vainly a few more months for Israel to repent, then for a while went to heaven... When the temple was destroyed for the last time in 70 A.D., 'she' moved on to the principal synagogues of Babylon, where ‘she’ not only appeared from time to time but made ‘herself’ audible in the sound of a bell. 'She is believed to be a comforter of the sick, a helper of those in need and especially tender toward repentant sinners. ‘She’ would descend and rest upon any who performed good deeds, even if they were pagan idolaters, and would also rest between worthy husbands and wives. ‘She’ accompanied her people through the centuries of exile and mourned with them ('she was seen by one mystic in widow's garb by the Wailing Wall), 'she' came to be identified with the Ideal Israel the faithful Community which awaited redemption.*…

“The feminine aspect of the eternal God is the ‘El-Shaddai,’ the mother-nature of God. It is in this realm that the Shekinah is revealed and does its high office work.”

“ff. *Feminine Aspects of Divinity (a Quaker publication) by Erminie Huntress Lantero.” (Love the Law of the Angels, pp. 164-5)

Following the above citation, Gwen Shaw states that God is androgynous and BISEXUAL. Her authority for this teaching is the early Jewish rabbis, of whom more will be said later.

“You remember us mentioning in chapter 13 that God had created Adam male and female. If God created man male and female, it was because bisexuality somehow belongs to His own nature. The fact has been recognized by early rabbinic commentators that this is true.” (Love the Law of the Angels, p. 165)

You know what Cleveland, Ohio black freemasons remind me of?
Prince Hall & Order of the Eastern Star teachings in Cleveland, Ohio is to teach our young black men & women that they shouldn't look at themselves as black. They should see themselves as Americans. If they see themselves in that light than white folks would love & respect them. White folks would see them as individuals trying to succeed & not apart of the black community that cry about racism all the time. they will be rich, prestigious & upper class. Prince Hall Freemasons, Order of the Eastern Star & International Freemasons are classic uncle Toms & will step over & backstabb any black person that don't pay due money for a dollar, while acting like a bruh or like a father figure. I don't need know father figures! I had a very good Father. Black Freemason & Order of the Eastern Stars in Cleveland Ohio feel broke a$$ ni$$ga's can talk about Prince Hall Freemasons & Order of the Eastern Stars, but I'm sure they can careless, even tho a lot of their members are making less than $40,000 a year. Black Freemasons got degrees & gooooood jobs, I'm mean, black freemasons got careers & drive in luxury cars. Poor black nigga's should stop playing the race card & shut up & make MONEY! Just like prostitution offer you a service that they try & act like you can only get from them for a price. If they feel you can afford it than they're all over you, but if they think you can can't afford it than they"ll snub you.  ALL BLACK FREEMASON'S WHITE FRIENDS LOVE THEM!!!!


What's funny is that black freemasons & Order of the Eastern Star talk about & cry about racism all the time out the presence of whites, asians, indians & latinos. Who they think they fooling?

These Black Freemasons try & spread tooo many rumors. These black Freemasons try & destroy men & women confidence so they would come back to them so they can vouch for them so they will be liked in society. The same society that liked that person before they became a Freemason.
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The names of Anthony Smith so-called family & friends & organizations such as Scottish Rite Freemasons & The Order of the Eastern Star's & also Greek frats & Soror's were removed from the post. It wasn't done out of fear or because Anthony Smith was isolated, he can deal with that. U see, Anthony Smith is not trying to sell himself to be rich or wealthy. Anthony Smith doesn't need to manipulate people, especially bruhs & sista's, in order to make them feel good about themselves or make them believe they could make two bits off working with Anthony Smith or knowing Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith doesn't  have to masquerade off a  squeaky clean, illustrious image perfect image because Anthony Smith isn't trying to sell himself.  

I want you to fully understand how most black Freemasons & The Order of the Eastern Star Organizations operate in Cleveland, Ohio in areas like Warrensville Heights, Cleveland, Heights, Bedford Heights & Shaker Heights & Maple Heights, Euclid Heights, Richmond Heights & Solon Heights. Dress to impress, looks mean a great deal to these people. The puppet masters & the many puppets of the Grand Lodges. Most of these people are educated & prestigious or give the perception that they're prestigious. It's power in numbers & these organizations can make your reputation crystal clean or they can make you look like the worst person in the world. Black freemasons, prince Hall & International Freemasons are closely connected to white freemasons. They go to the same lodges sometime & hold seats in each other  lodges. They make you believe you wanna belong, you need them, they don't need you. It's amazing to see how many people can be taken so easy, especially women. These people are social networking kings & queens. Everybody wanna belong to something to meet someone with money because that person know someone with money.

I copied & pasted something Anthony Smith had stated in the past & that's if you got a buck than you got a bruh & if you got two dollars than you got a sister. Of course the perception is God, praying & faith & clean living. You know, everything that's easy to sell.

Take a look at this article because the nature of how they make money is the same. It's the same mentality.
http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/having-his-cake-and-eating-it-too/Content?oid=3562653

Former members of the for-profit investment group and fraternal organization known as Cakeboy & Cakegirl Inc. say that the company to which they belonged was and is a sinister scam, that Chief Executive Officer Derrick Watson was and is a professional con artist who embezzled funds from dues-paying members to bankroll a lavish lifestyle.

When Chief Executive Officer Derrick Watson of Cakeboy & Cakegirl Inc. say something like "What I actually wanted to do was something different, like the Cleveland MASONS or something, like a secret society." With a $40 per month active membership & hosting a lot of fashion shows & parties they are looking a lot like black freemasons. Getting everyone in one place mean mo money.

They started out as party promoters, salesmen selling growth by hosting parties & fashion shows. How is that like a fraternity? How is this like an investment group? This is what I mean about Cleveland, Ohio Freemasons & certain parties not mentioned.
 
Honestly, who would honestly believe that their $55.00 & $40.00 monthly payment fee investment would go into KFC & Happy's Chicken? KFC & Happy's Chicken are mostly independently owned fast food franchised. The $40.00 monthly fee was suppose to be divided. $20.00 were  supposed to go towards investments & the other $20.00 were supposed to go towards Cakeboy & Cakegirl Inc,  So how can you invest in any stock options with $20.00?  Like most Scottish Rite Freemasons & Order Of the Easter Organizations they are well represented. The main paper in Cleveland, Ohio the Plain Dealer author Margaret Bernstein said in their article about  Community Heroes series in December, 2011, "Cakeboy & Cakegirl were fun-loving," "Inventive," & even "well-organized." Author Margaret Bernstein praised Watson and his three co-founders popularized community service leaders in the 20s & 30s age range of African Americans. 20's & 30's age range are most likely to play puppets to the puppet masters with the perception of getting a leg up in the World.. No doubt this author Margaret Bernstein is either a Freemason or a member of a mega Church in Cleveland, Ohio & he admired the Cash Cakeboy & Cakegirl were showing off. 
 
This is the Application. Ha! Ha!
In order to successfully complete my 90-day probationary period and thus become an Official Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc. Corporate Member, I understand that I must adhere to the following: a) I must pay my dues no later than the 15th of the month, b) I must abide by every regulation set forth in the CB/CG Inc. ZERO TOLERANCE policy, c) I must promote all Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc. events, as well as the CBI/CGI website via any and all Internet networking sites I may be a part of, and d) I must maintain strong communication with my Team Leader. If I do not adhere to the aforementioned regulations, I understand that I may be dismissed from the program at the Executive Board's discretion, without refund of any monies I may have previously invested into Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc. I am also agreeing that once I do become a member of this organization, I am to remain exclusive to Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc., meaning I will not join or work with any other entertainment or social networking company, nor will I start my own entertainment or social networking company. I also agree that I will not use or disclose any Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc. information, nor will I use or disclose Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc.'s methods of operation. Should I not adhere to the terms set forth, I understand that I can & will be subject to legal action.
 
I copied & pasted something Anthony Smith had stated in the past & that's if you got a buck than you got a bruh & if you got two dollars than you got a sister.
 
Would you sign?
 
Derrick said that there is only $600.00 in Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc. bank account.
Like the article said, So why would anyone continue paying money month after month into an organization for which the benefits were always hidden? About sleeping with female members, I don't think it's a crime because no one heard any of the women say Derrick raped them. I bet most of the women forced themselves on Derrick or they aggressively pursued him & his friends. Joiner alleged that Watson's ongoing relationships resulted in several other pregnancies, and Watson dipped into company funds to pay for child support. Thurston Jennings couldn't say for certain whether or not Watson fathered other children.
 
Keep this in mind. Derrick Watson was snitched on. Derrick Watson has not been found found guilty anything. Sleeping with women is not a crime if they're above the age of 18. Derrick Watson maybe not the business minded man he thinks he is. A can't name any small business owner that didn't screw-up their first time out. I can't name one businessmen that didn't max out their credit cards when they first started out. What I'm trying to say is that I never heard of a small business owner that didn't make mistakes. Black men & especially black women look at black men in the black community that's broke as lame with no game. Some folks wanna hear your game, your hustle. They honestly want have someone spit game at them rather than hear the true. Derrick had a tremendous amount of influence, he didn't steal 300 members money they came to him.
 
Here's the article:
http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/having-his-cake-and-eating-it-too/Content?oid=3562653
 
Having His Cake and Eating it Too
A for-profit charity comes under scrutiny as members describe shady dealings
by Sam Allard
 
Former members of the for-profit investment group and fraternal organization known as Cakeboy & Cakegirl Inc. say that the company to which they belonged was and is a sinister scam, that Chief Executive Officer Derrick Watson was and is a professional con artist who embezzled funds from dues-paying members to bankroll a lavish lifestyle. At its peak, Cakeboy & Cakegirl Inc. counted more than 300 members, hosting parties and "networking events" at their headquarters in Warrensville Heights in addition to periodic community service initiatives. Membership entailed a $55 one-time fee and then a $40 monthly payment thereafter. Co-founder Antwon Joiner said that Watson routinely funneled those dues directly to himself. "You can do the math," said Joiner. "It was to the tune of $550,000." But it wasn't just the money. Joiner said that he was compelled to quit the organization earlier this year primarily because Watson was preying on female members, collecting new members, in fact, expressly for the purpose of sleeping with them, he alleged. Joiner claims that sometimes Watson would have sex with new recruits in introductory "interviews." "He was like the 2013 Ted Bundy," said Joiner. "No matter how many women he got, he needed new meat. He's honestly one of the sickest people I've ever met."
 
That's a far cry from the portrait painted of Watson and his organization in the Plain Dealer's "Community Heroes" series in December, 2011. There, Cakeboy & Cakegirl was described as "unique," "fun-loving," "inventive," and even "well-organized." Author Margaret Bernstein praised Watson and his three co-founders for popularizing community service among their demographic, African-Americans in their 20s and 30s. "We give back in a fun way," Watson told Bernstein. "We throw parties, but it's not just about that. The vision is to build each other and build the community surrounding us. Each member will tell you the same."
 
That's doubtful.
What each member will likely tell you is something entirely different about Cakeboy & Cakegirl. Few people have any clue as to what went on behind closed doors, or for that matter what the company was, exactly, in the first place. A for-profit investment group?
 
Joiner said that the idea was to create a sort of 401K or mutual fund, but with none of the penalties those investments incur. "What Derrick actually wanted to do was something different, like the Cleveland Masons or something, like a secret society," Joiner said. "But then we held a hotel party and realized we could actually make money off of this, doing parties and entertainment. The company would've run just fine if he didn't go sleeping with all the members. I told him it's like at Wal-Mart. If you're a manager, you can't go sleeping with all your cashiers."
 
As a moral and professional guideline, that's a sensible practice to adopt, but sleeping around isn't a crime; creating a bogus company and stealing money, however, is.
 
Of Cakeboy & Cakegirl's triune mission -- fraternity, volunteerism, investment -- the "investment" element was the most dubious. "We always wanted to know what we were investing in," said Orville Hentley, a faithful dues-paying member who was instated briefly as president when rumors of financial foul play surfaced on Facebook. "We were upset with Derrick because we were told that there would be investments, but no one ever knew what the investments were." Joiner said that the company promised it would give out stock rebates to members in exchange for their dues. "But there were no stock rebates at all. Derrick used the funds to pay for trips, alcohol, lobster, care for his dog, clothes, and other items." Thurston Jennings III, a union electrician who oversaw the Cakeboy & Cakegirl board (among other things), said that Watson issued "quarterly reports" which outlined fabricated stock holdings for members. "He'd say, you have stocks in Charmin or you have stocks in KFC or Happy's chicken, but it was just a piece of paper," Jennings said. "And then when members wanted to know the progress of their stocks, Derrick would call them Cake-haters and threaten to remove them from the company." And those threats weren't empty. Watson enjoyed an exalted form of leadership in which he had ultimate power.
 
Here's a selection from the online "application":
 
In order to successfully complete my 90-day probationary period and thus become an Official Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc. Corporate Member, I understand that I must adhere to the following: a) I must pay my dues no later than the 15th of the month, b) I must abide by every regulation set forth in the CB/CG Inc. ZERO TOLERANCE policy, c) I must promote all Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc. events, as well as the CBI/CGI website via any and all Internet networking sites I may be a part of, and d) I must maintain strong communication with my Team Leader. If I do not adhere to the aforementioned regulations, I understand that I may be dismissed from the program at the Executive Board's discretion, without refund of any monies I may have previously invested into Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc.
 
I am also agreeing that once I do become a member of this organization, I am to remain exclusive to Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc., meaning I will not join or work with any other entertainment or social networking company, nor will I start my own entertainment or social networking company. I also agree that I will not use or disclose any Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc. information, nor will I use or disclose Cakeboy&Cakegirl Inc.'s methods of operation. Should I not adhere to the terms set forth, I understand that I can and will be subject to legal action.
 
The paranoia and megalomania, not to mention balls, on display is almost staggering. Never mind the fact that "disclosing CB/CG's methods of operation would be impossible, given the super-secret, indefinite nature of its corporate structure. "Long story short: Of the $40 monthly fee, $20 was supposed to go back to the company and $20 was supposed to go to investments," said Jennings. "And I want to know: Where is the money? All that money. Derrick at one time said that there was only $600 left in the bank account, and to me, that's unfathomable, given the volume that we were taking in." Joiner's $550,000 estimate is surely too high. But with the $55 entrance fee, Jennings said it would be reasonable to assume they were generating close to $100,000 per year. That money went to a company bank account that was another subject of heated controversy. Only Watson and co-founder LaTonya Hobson, who doubled as the company's Finance Director, had access to it. Antwon Joiner said that Derrick Watson fathered LaTonya Hobson's baby. Not only that: Joiner alleged that Watson's ongoing relationships resulted in several other pregnancies, and Watson dipped into company funds to pay for child support. Thurston Jennings couldn't say for certain whether or not Watson fathered other children, only that "it is alleged to be so," and that "the facts support it. He definitely did have inappropriate relations with members. That I'll say on record." Joiner was much more direct: "Dick pictures and shit. Derrick's the inbox king."   
 
When confronted about these manifold allegations, Watson only chuckled, saying it was all "nonsense" and "unfortunately, I hate to say it, ignorance." He characterized Joiner and those who abandoned Cakeboy & Cakegirl as "haters," and said that they had been dismissed for various reasons (punitive measures, he intimated) and were now waging a campaign to sabotage his company. Watson, on the question of sleeping with members:  "Misguided and silly." Watson, on the question of stealing company funds: "I have a strong career professionally. I have no reason to steal anything." Watson, on the question of child support: "I'm not even on child support. I go hard for my kid." Watson, on Joiner: "He smacked one of my managers in public and because of that, he was asked to leave. Now he's out to destroy the organization. He went on the radio and told everybody it was a scam."
 
Joiner admitted the altercation, and admitted as much on the radio -- "slapping a chick for being in my face at 3 a.m. at Gyro George on Northfield...and it was a playful slap, not a gorilla pimp slap" -- but maintained that Derrick wanted him out so he could continue filching funds unchecked.
 
Jennings confirmed the confrontation and said he even orchestrated the repercussions of Joiner. "I set the fine and suspended him from the next few parties. I have all the emails right here. But Derrick loves to twist a story. If his argument hinges on that incident, why did I walk out the door too? Why did all the others quit?"
 
Jennings said he called an emergency board meeting in January to announce his resignation. He could no longer tolerate the bad blood and immature leadership. He tried to counsel the executive board -- at 36, he's several years older than the various Chiefs on the executive committee -- but had had enough when he heard that Watson was fooling around with members.
 
"Look, I'm after justice on a bigger scale." Jennings said. "If things were done in bad faith, or in a misleading way, I want every ounce of justice for the members and myself."  
Watson claimed there are still 250 members in the current Cakeboy & Cakegirl, Inc. and are trying to rebuild in the wake of what he characterized as basically a PR snafu. Orville Hentley speculated that the number might be closer to 80. Hentley and Watson both said that not all members pay dues regularly.
 
"At most, we had 100 paying members at a time," Watson said, adding that he'd often reward members for frequent appearances at community service events. "But it costs a lot of money to run a company. That money went to rent, office bills, lights, gas, phone conferences. The bills really added up."
 
Joiner disagreed. He said that office space was donated free of charge and that most of the bills went unpaid. For whatever it's worth, the company phone line is certainly out of service.
 
So why would anyone continue paying money month after month into an organization for which the benefits were always hidden, and in which the leadership made promises that were never kept?
 
"A lot of people pay to be in the spotlight," suggested Joiner. "They pay to be in the club. They pay to be around people who drive fancy cars."
 
Jennings had a similar prognosis: "When you sell that much hope like Derrick did, like a preacher does, you will have people going to great lengths to keep it sacred. They just want to belong. It's like the Bloods or the Crips. A lot of these people didn't have the respect at home and they don't care what's going on in the organization. They just want to belong."
 
It's often church that people turn to for comfort and nourishment in times of distress, and Joiner didn't stray far from religious imagery either. Only he didn't consider Derrick Watson a preacher.
 
"Cakeboy was making Derrick Watson into a God," Joiner said.
 
"And that's what he always wanted."
 
Like I said before

Keep this in mind. Derrick Watson was snitched on. Derrick Watson has not been found found guilty anything. Sleeping with women is not a crime if they're above the age of 18. Derrick Watson maybe not the business minded man he thinks he is. A can't name any small business owner that didn't screw-up their first time out. I can't name one businessmen that didn't max out their credit cards when they first started out. What I'm trying to say is that I never heard of a small business owner that didn't make mistakes. Black men & especially black women look at black men in the black community that's broke as lame with no game. Some folks wanna hear your game, your hustle. They honestly want have someone spit game at them rather than hear the true. Derrick had a tremendous amount of influence, he didn't steal 300 members money they came to him.
 
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This is a fact. Prince Hall & International Black Free & Accepted Mason's & black Order of  the Eastern Star do something no other Free & Accepted Mason fraternal Masonic lodge does & that's set-up, spread rumors & compare themselves to other black International Free & Accepted Masons all for the eye of white Free & Accepted Masons & Order of the Eastern Stars in America. Latino, Arab, Middle Eastern, Indian, Italian & other ethnic Free & Accepted Masons don't do that to cater to white folks. Is that a slavery thing? Like I said before, for decades in the state throughout America Black Prince Hall Freemasons are trying to create some kind of beef or rival against International Freemasons. I personally have known black men that had a good job that wanted to be active in their community, but they worked long hours so they wanted to join an organization that's embedded in their community. These men didn't have a college degree so they couldn't join a fraternity so they joined a fraternal lodge. Maybe because they have family members or a friends that's members, not knowing anything about Prince Hall Freemasons or International Freemasons. In this generation Prince Hall Freemasons feel they're privileged to practice the Masonic craft because they're traditionally white Scottish Rite or York Rite Freemasons gave them their charter. Latino, Arab, Middle Eastern, Indian, Italian & other ethnic Free & Accepted Masons did not need white's to give them permission to operate. So Prince Hall claim Black International Freemasons are not real Freemasons, but black Prince Hall Masons will leave their lodge & join a International lodge & a International will leave their lodge to join a Prince Hall lodge. Black International Freemasons have a tremendous amount of respect for every Freemason after they join. They don't know they're being called fake, not real Freemasons, behind their back by Prince Hall Freemasons. There's no real beef. I seen Black Prince Hall Freemasons greet Black International Freemasons a lot of times, but behind their back Black Prince Hall Freemasons will call Black International Freemasons names in the presence of white Scottish Rite or York Rite Freemasons or none members. You can call it what it is. White & black Freemasons sometime sit in the same lodge, Temple, House, whatever you wanna call it. Sometime white Freemasons are the head of some Prince Hall lodges. Make no mistake about it, it's a rival or a hate between the two organizations & it's not something that's physical. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to make people think he didn't exist.

Just so we don't have any misunderstanding Eastern Stars.

The Order of the Eastern Star has a tangled history.
Women & men act like it's a BIG DEAL because they can join a Freemason Loge & also an Order of the Eastern Star Loge, that mean the organization got your money more than once. Originally conceived as an American form of Adoptive Masonry as early as the 1840s, it took until 1876 for the General Grand Chapter, Order of the Eastern Star, to be formed; and there are at least two separate organizations that both say that they are dedicated to the unification of all Eastern Stars, but which lead a separate existence from the General Grand Chapter and were founded in 1947 and 1962 respectively. There is also an African-American organization, dating from the days when American Masons officially barred blacks from membership. The General Grand Chapter of the Order of the Eastern Star was founded in 1876. It currently extends worldwide, in association (where appropriate) with the Supreme Grand Chapter of Scotland. It is open to Master Masons in good standing, and their female relatives over the age of 18 years. There were 2,087,063 members in 1994.
Robert Morris, Master Mason, schoolteacher and poet, first attempted in the 1840s to establish Adoptive Masonry in the United States, using a ritual of his own devising. At first reviled by fellow Masons for betraying Masonic secrets, he nevertheless persisted and throughout the 1850s conferred various degrees on female relatives of Master Masons, with varying levels of cooperation from other Master Masons. His Families of the Eastern Star dated from 1857.

Real acceptance was slow in coming, and it was not until Morris’s rituals were revised by the Masonic publisher Robert Macoy in 1866 that any greater success came. Macoy added the degrees of Queen of the South, Past Matron’s Degree and the Amaranth Degree. Even then, it was 10 years before the Central Grand Chapter was organized, and the Grand Lodge of England still does not admit that the Eastern Star has anything to do with Freemasonry. Indeed, the U.G.LE. has in the past threatened with expulsion any Master Mason who receives any O.E.S. Degree or serves as Worthy Patron.
The order as now constituted works five degrees, based on the story of five women in the Bible — an example of the way in which organizations adhering to deism have become progressively more Christian in the United States, especially where women are involved. The slogan of the order is, “We have seen His star in the East, and are come to worship Hun.” The order even awards scholarships to those involved in religious training.

The ritual also illustrates powerful patriarchal values, and, of course, the degrees must be conferred by a (male) Master Mason. The degrees are:

1. Obedience, symbolized by Adah daughter of Jepthah (daughter)
2. Devotion to religious values, symbolized by Ruth (widow)
3. Fidelity, exemplified by Esther (wife)
4. Faith in the Redeemer, symbolized by Martha sister of Lazarus (sister)
5. Charity, symbolized by Electa, identified as the “Elect Lady” in the second epistle of St. John (mother)
The initial choice of characters certainly seems strange to an outsider, as Adah was a human sacrifice, and Jepthah the Gileadite appears from the description in Judges 11 to have been an outstandingly unattractive and inflexible fellow.
In return for being allowed to win a battle against the “children of Ammon,” he promised Jehovah to slaughter as an offering the first thing that came to greet him when he returned home (verses 30—31). He was apparently expecting his daughter’s pet lamb, but the daughter beat the lamb to the portals. He was, therefore, convinced he ought to kill her.
Equally strangely, she wished to go to the mountains to bewail her virginity (verses 37—38), which he permitted; and when she came back two months later, not having had the sense to stay away, he killed her. It is one of the most unedifying passages in Holy Writ.

Much the same form of ceremony is used for all five degrees, which are very milk-and-water compared with the Masonic originals: no swords pointed at bared breasts, no tongues torn out and bodies buried at the tide-line. A further degree, Queen of the South, is honorary.
According to the Eastern Star Ritual, when a lady claims to have taken these degrees, and has given one or more of the Signs, a Mason may examine her in the following manner:
Question:          “Are you a sister of the Eastern Star?”
Answer:            “We have seen his star in the East.”
Question:          “For what came you here?”
Answer:            “We came here to worship him.”
Question:          “Have you the cabalistic word?”
Answer:            “I have.”
Question:          “Will you give it to me?”
Answer:            “I will, with your assistance.”
Question:          “Begin.”
Answer:            “No, you begin.”
Question:          “Begin you.”
Answer:            “F.”
Question:          “A.”
Answer:            “T.”
Question:          “A.”
Answer:            “L.”
Question:          “Has that word any signification?”
Answer:            “It has, two. First, that it would be fatal to the character of any lady for truth who should disdose the secrets of these degrees unlawfully. Second, each of the letters of this word stands for one or more words, which words make the cabalistic motto.”
Question:          “Have you the Cabalistic motto?”
Answer:            “I have.”
Question:          “Will you give it to me?”
Answer:            “I will, with your assistance.”
Question:          “Begin.”
Answer:            “No, you begin.”
Question:          “Begin you.”
Answer:            “Fairest.”
Question:          “Among.”
Answer:            “Ten thousand.”
Question:          “Altogether.”
Answer:            “Lovely. Fairest — among — ten thousand —altogether lovely.
 
Note that it is the Mason who interrogates the woman, reinforcing her position of inferiority. It is not hard to sympathize with the U.G.L.E. in its disdain for the order.
Functionally, the Order of the Eastern Star is something between a female version of Masonry in its own right, and an organization riding on the shirt-tails of Masonry; one cannot help wondering how many women would join without the prompting of husbands, fathers, and other male relatives.
Charitable giving includes scholarships for students in religious training, and more.  

Another branch or sect of the Eastern Star is the Federation of Eastern Stars, founded in 1962 and purportedly dedicated to the unification of Eastern Star orders worldwide. It had 105,000 members in 1994 and was a female auxiliary of Federation of Masons of the World.
The Federation of Eastern Stars of the World was founded 15 years earlier, in 1947, and is also purportedly dedicated to the unification of Eastern Star orders worldwide. It had 57,000 members in 1994.

With such a strong fraternal spirit — two separate organizations dedicated to unity (but not with each other) and both separate from the main body, to say nothing of excluding the Prince Hall (Black) Order—it is not surprising that the Eastern Star is in decline. The total membership given above is under 2.6 million, which is less than the membership of the General Grand Chapter alone in the 1970s. The Order of the Constellation of the Junior Stars is the juvenile arm of the Eastern Star.
 
This order has never been active in The Netherlands. before founding a Dutch female order, the Order of Weavers (Orde Vitae Feminea Textura), the founders had an idea of starting a Dutch branch of the O.E.S. This, however, was prohibited by the Dutch Grand Orient.

In 1921 the degree of Amaranth became a separate order.
From the Order of the Eastern Star, a organization for young girls was founded: the Order of Rainbow for Girls. There is also the Order of Job's Daughters for girls between 13-19, of which many girls join at a later age the O.E.S.

Yo! I don't know if you read this far, but somebody need to contact Eric Holder because Anthony Smith, mentioned in this post that was set-up, will never submit to the bisexual cult worshiping agents that work for the federal government that got Shanton Cassell & others wide open.. I don't care how many white women or dough you can put in a limo or if  you live in a world that's a masquerade to this one. Anthony Smith don't lay down for nobody. Never in your life!!! You can set-Anthony Smith up on that one & he will lay it down for what ever time he has on his head. One & a half, two or three years top's.   

I don't know how many Grand lodges or district lodges were manipulated. Recognized lodges or non-recognized lodges it doesn't matter. I can see how a ballroom full of Freemasons & Order of Eastern Star members wearing black suits or tuxedos with masonic emblems can impressive to many.

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Predominately Black Bogus Freemasonry or commonly called Non-Prince Hall Freemasonry. The practice has been a pest in the side to Prince Hall Freemasonry since the early 1800's. It started with the schism in Pennsylvania with Hiram Grand Lodge, fueled by the death of the National Grand Lodge, climaxed with John Jones [AFAM] type Grand Lodges and became a pyramid profiteering scheme with International Grand Lodges. There are over two hundred predominately Black Bogus Grand Lodges in the United States, that are estimated to have a membership of 22,000 to 47,000 individuals, claiming to be Freemasons and some are Prince Hall lodges as well. These Lodges and Grand Lodges are primarily located in our larger America cities, with New York City boasting the highest population of irregular groups.

These groups pray upon the naïve profane, who almost never knows what regularity is or has knowledge that there is a difference between Freemasons naive people join sometime generations of relatives join these Bogus lodges. And than Prince Hall lodges will go after theses folks by slandering them behind their back spreading false rumors about the person or persons. All the profane typically knows is that he wants to be a Freemason, and from there he is taken advantage of - hoodwinked - robbed - victimized and left ignorant - shamed and branded by these Bogus Groups. That new Bogus Mason will go out and bring in five to ten more of his friends, family members & associates to also become foes to regular Freemasonry. A predominately Black University remains to be a microcosm of the Black Community and when we were faced with same threat at Central State and Wilberforce Universities [OHIO] in the mid 90's from the irregular Prince Hall Origin and International Groups, we significantly reduced their intake by educating our members that the Bogus Mason was not their Masonic equal and informed the public about regular Prince Hall Freemasonry through public seminars and lectures. Today these Bogus Groups still get a small amount of members from the campuses, but mainly only the individuals that couldn't get a petition from us, due to their character.

Bogus Freemasonry doesn't exist just because! It exist through ignorance of our own members and the ignorance of the public about us! The public won't get to know us through banquets or parades or church visits. We have get out there and tell them who we are - Educate the Public and your new Master Masons. Once we shift through all the rhetoric, it's easy to see that the Real Issue is ignorance and this is the reason why Bogus Freemasonry is a great danger regular Freemasonry and the public.

The Commission on Bogus Masonic Practices of the Phylaxis Society did an investigation on Bogus lodges. This group of zealous Prince Hall Freemasons makes it their job to educate anyone who will listen to them about the threat of Bogus lodges. Some of these lodges are gay & bisexual men & women Freemasonry lodges. It is to easy for Bogus Masons to rent a space for lease and call it a Freemason lodge they memorize the bible and ritual book & st

All lodges at the bottom are Prince Hall lodges not International lodges. All Prince Hall Lodges consider all International lodges Bogus freemason lodges the problem is that there are more Bogus lodges than real lodges.

This investigation was done by Prince Hall on their on lodges some of these Bogus lodges have been operating for over 50 years with generational members many good folks & are members of the Church & are devoted Christians & Baptist members. Many even work for the Justice department and are police officers. Note: Bogus lodges are huge in The Order Of The Eastern Star lodges as well. Black & white Scottish & York Rite lodges. It's one of those bogus lodges operating with a Grand lodge, but since some bogus lodges have been operating for decades it's hard for people to know. The lost of bogus lodges is not up to date because they grow fast & go unnoticed for years & in some cases decades.

Alabama
1. Most Worshipful National Grand Lodge of F&AAYM of U.S.A., Prince Hall Origin & Parent Body of All Legitimate Masons, York Scottish (AL)
2. Lincoln Grand Lodge, Free and Accepted Colored Masons of America (AL)
3. Supreme Workshop of Modern Free and Accepted Colored Masons of America (AL)
4. King Solomon Grand Lodge, AF&AM (AL) (AR) (DC)
5. Grand Lodge AF&AM, Scottish Rite (AL)
6. The Most Worshipful King Solomon Grand Lodge, A.F.&A.M., Scottish Rite of the State of Alabama, Inc (AL)

Arizona

7. Ezra Grand Lodge, AF&AM (AZ)

Arkansas

8. King David Grand Lodge, AF&AM (AR)
9. St. John's Grand Lodge, AF&AM (AR) (CT) (DC)
10. St. James Grand Lodge, AF&AM (AR)

Cali

12. Sons of Light Grand Lodge, AF&AM (CA)
13. Hiram of Tyre Grand Lodge, AF&AM (formerly "Fletcher Grand Lodge") (CA)
14. Eureka Grand Lodge, F&AAYM (CA)
15. King Solomon Grand Lodge F&AAYM (National Compact) CA
16. St. John's Grand Lodge AF&AM of Canada and California (CA)
17. St. Anthony's Grand Lodge, AF&AM
18. Grand Lot of Free and Accepted Ancient York Masons (CA)
19. Pyramid Grand Lodge AF&AM (CA
20. Esoteric Grand Lodge of America (CA)
21. Enoch Grand Lodge AF&AM (CA)
22. St. Matthew's Grand Lodge (CA)
23. True Light Grand Lodge AF&AM (CA)
24. Mount Logan Grand Lodge AF&AM (CA)
25. Most Worshipful Mt. Tabor Grand Lodge AF&AM, Inc., Scottish Rite (CA)

Delaware

26. Harmony Grand Lodge F&AAYM (National Compact) on the Continent of North America (DE)
27. Orient Grand Lodge AF&AM, Inc., Scottish Rite (DE)
28. Two Individual Lodges (DE)

They say Black International Mason are not real Masons
Washington, D.C.

29. Grand Lodge AF&AM, Inc. (unit of McBlain Thomson's American Federation) (DC)
30. National Ethiopian Supreme Council of the Universal Order of Freemasons (Ethiopian Rites Exclusive) (DC)
31. Universal Grand Lodge AF&AM (DC)
32. Sovereign Grand Lodge AF&AM (DC)
33. Grand Orient of the District of Columbia (DC)
34. Washington Consistory No. I AASR (DC)
35. Benderson Grand Lodge (DC)

Florida

36. Prince Hall Grand Lodge AF&AM, Inc. (FL)
37. Grand Lodge AF&AM (FL)
38. Most Worshipful Cypress Grand Lodge, AF&AM of Florida (FL)

They say Black International masons are not real.
Georgia

39. Grand Lodge F&AAYM, Inc. (GA)
40. International Free and Accepted Masons (GA)
41. Smooth Ashlar Grand Lodge F&AAYM (GA)
42. Supreme Grand Lodge of Modern Free and Accepted Masons of the USA (GA)
43. St. Joseph's Grand Lodge AF&AM (GA)

They say Black International Masons or not real.
Illinois

44. Most Worshipful Sovereign Grand Lodge AF&AM of the USA - Regular Masonic Succession, Instituted A.D.1901 (IL)

45. St. Mark's Grand Lodge F&AAYM (National Compact) Prince Hall Origin (IL)
46. St. John's Grand Lodge AF&AM (IL)
47. Grand Lodge AF&AM (IL)
48. St. James Grand Lodge AF&AM (IL)
49. Hiram Grand Lodge AF&AM (IL)
50. W.T.M. Grant Jr. Grand Lodge AF&AM (IL)
51. King David Grand Lodge AF&AM (IL)
52. Ancient Free and Accepted Masons - Working In and For the USA, Its Dependencies, Territories, Canada and the Free World (IL)
53. Most Worshipful United Grand Lodge, AF&AM of Illinois, Inc. (IL)
54. Most Worshipful St. Ezra Grand Lodge (IL) (est. 1999)
55. The Original Most Worshipful St. John's Grand Lodge of Illinois, AF&AM (IL)
56. Most Worshipful St. Paul Grand Lodge (IL)
57. Moses Grand Lodge (IL)
58. Shadrach Grand Lodge (IL)

Indiana

59. Hiram Grand Lodge AF&AM (IN)
60. King Solomon Grand Lodge AF&AM (IN) (KS)
61. King George Grand Lodge AF&AM (IN)

Iowa

62. King David Grand Lodge AF&AM (IA)
63. St. James Grand Lodge AF&AM (IA)

Kansas

64. St. John the Evangelist Grand Lodge AF&AM (KS)
65. St. Mark's Grand Lodge AF&AM (KS)

Louisiana

66. United King George Grand Lodge AF&AM (LA)
67. Universal Grand Lodge AF&AM (LA)
68. United St. John's Grand Lodge AF&AM (LA)
69. St. Andrew's Grand Lodge AF&AM (LA)
70. Jerusalem Grand Lodge AF&AM (LA)
71. St. John's Grand Lodge AF&AM (LA)
72. Prince Hall Grand Lodge of F&AAYM (PH origin) Compact (LA)

They say Black International masons are not real.
Massachusetts

73. Alpha Grand Lodge AF&AM (MA)
74. Eureka Alpha Grand Lodge of AF&AM Scottish Rite Colored Masons of Massachusetts (MA)
75. George W. Carver Grand Lodge AF&AM (MA)
76. Hiram Grand Lodge AF&AM (MA)

Maryland

77. Hiram Grand Lodge AF&AM, Inc (MD)
78. Zerubbabel Grand Lodge (MD)

They say Black International Mason are not real.
Michigan

79. Mt. Nebo Grand Lodge AF&AM (MI)
80. United Grand Lodge, Inc., Scottish Rite Masons (MI)
81. Mt. Sinai Grand Lodge AF&AM (MI)
82. Atomic Grand Lodge AF&AM (MI)
83. St. John's Grand Lodge AF&AM (MI)
84. Pride of the East Grand Lodge AF&AM (MI)
85. King Solomon Grand Lodge AF&AM (MI)
86. Mount Olive Grand Lodge of AYM (MI)
87. Universal Grand Lodge of AYM of the Provinces of the Continent of North America (MI)
88. International Free and Accepted Modern Masons, Inc. (MI)
89. King David Grand Lodge AF&AM (MI)
90. Tyree Grand Lodge AF&AM (MI)

Mississippi

91. Prince Hall Grand Lodge AF&AM (MS)
92. King Hiram Grand Lodge AF&AM (MS)
93. King David Grand Lodge AF&AM (MS)
94. Cuey Grand Lodge AF&AM (MS)
95. King Solomon Grand Lodge AF&AM (MS)

Missouri

98. St. Matthew's Grand Lodge AF&AM (MO)
99. St. Mark's Grand Lodge AF&AM (MO)
100. Tyre Grand Lodge AF&AM (MO)
101. Grand Lodge AF&AM (MO)
102. St. Andrew's Grand Lodge (MO) Afro-American Free and Accepted Masons of U.S. (MO)
103. St. Matthew Grand Lodge (MO)

New Jersey

104. Oriental Grand Lodge AF&AM (NJ)
105. St. John's Grand Lodge AF&AM (NJ) (NY)
106. King Hiram Grand Lodge AF&AM, Inc., Scottish Rite (its constitution styles it as "William Hiram Pilgrim") (NJ)
107. King David Grand Lodge AF&AM (NJ)
108. D.U.B.F.K.S. and K.M.T. Grand Lodge No. 1, AF&AM (NJ)
109. King William Grand Lodge AF&AM (NJ)
110. King Solomon Grand Lodge AF&AM (NJ)
111. York Grand Lodge (NJ)
112. Union Grand Lodge AF&AM (NJ)
113. Most Worshipful New Birth Grand Lodge(Break-off from the United Masonic Brotherhood) (NJ)
114. Most Worshipful Garden State Grand Lodge (Break-off from Oriental G.L.)(NJ)
115. United Masonic Brotherhood (NJ)

New York

116. Enoch Grand Lodge AF&AM (NY)
117. United Grand Orient (NY)
118. Universal Grand Orient, Inc. (NY)
119. King Solomon Grand Lodge AF&AM (NY)
120. Orient Grand Lodge AF&AM of the State of New York (NY)
121. St. John's Grand Lodge AF&AM of the World (NY)
122. Esoteric Grand Lodge of America, Inc. (pending) (NY)
123. Hiram Grand Lodge AF&AM No. I (Bronx) (NY)
124. Hiram Grand Lodge AF&AM No. 2 (Manhattan) (NY)
125. Mecca Grand Lodge AASR (NY)
126. Unity Grand Lodge AF&AM (NY)
127. King Cyrus Grand Lodge AF&AM (NY)
128. Grand Lodge AF&AM of the State of New York (NY)
129. United Grand Lodge AF&AM Scottish Rite (NY)
130. St. John's Grand Lodge, Scottish Rite (NY)
131. Oriental Grand Lodge AF&AM of State of New York (NY)
132. Alpha Grand Lodge AF&AM (NY)
133. Most Worshipful Doric Grand Lodge AF&AM, State of New York, Inc. (NY)
134. Most Worshipful Mystic Tie Grand Lodge (NY)

New Mexico

135. King Solomon Grand Lodge AF&AM (NM)
North Carolina
136. Brotherly Love Grand Lodge AF&AM (NC)
137. Grand Lodge AF&AM (NC)
138. Keystone Grand Lodge AF&AM (NC)
139. Omega Grand Lodge AF&AM (NC)

Minnesota

140. North Star Grand Lodge F&AAYM (MN)
Ohio
141. Sovereign Grand Lodge AF&AM of U.S.A. (OH)
142. United Grand Lodge AF&AM (OH)
143. Most Worshipful Grand Lodge AF&AM Under the authority of Haiti (OH)
144. Titus Grand Lodge AF&AM (OH)
145. St. John's Grand Lodge A

A Brother Emanuel Stanley, MPS, from Maryland, 1st Vice President of the Commission On Bogus Masonic Practices has written on a group called the, “INTERNATIONAL MASONIC ASSOCIATION OF THE WORLD”. A Man of the cloth by the name of Abe Johnson will come to your state for a certain price to confer all the degrees of Freemasonry. As long as you have the right amount of money. Lets not forget that this individual also expects hotel stay and round trip travel at your expense.

This organization is unique in that it negotiates fees and prices on the conferring of degrees once a meeting is set up. Not only does it violate Masonic territories but has no actual set figure by way of any legal Masonic Constitution, therefore giving it room to better swindle the naïve.
According to this Mister Reverend Abe Johnson, of the INTERNATIONAL MASONIC ASSOCIATION OF THE WORLD, was originally organized in Geneva in 1921, which failed to obtain a legal charter to operate. He then states that in 1970 after a record search, he discovered that the Charters could be obtained. He claims to have applied for the Charter by presenting his Mt. Lebanon Grand Lodge Charter to Washington (Library of Congress) and thereby obtained the Charter for the INTERNATIONAL MASONIC ASSOCIATION. Mr. Abe states, “that the INTERNATIONAL MASONIC ASSOCIATION OF THE WORLD is to legalize all Masonic Fraternities.”

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Let it be known that Anthony Smith have not had contact or been in the same room with any of the people mentioned above. Some in over a decade. I don't care about the rumors, manipulation & the fake prayers. If Anthony Smith haven't spoken to any of the people mentioned in a decade & some in over 8 years than it's unlikely that will happen. Some of these people mentioned will only stand in the same room as Anthony Smith if it's on there terms, trying to isolate Anthony Smith & trying to make people loose respect for Anthony Smith & trying to make Anthony Smith come on bending knees & in need is not working.   
I don't see why they indirectly keep going after Anthony Smith, everyone mentioned above is doing well, some very well. 
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People read about State & Federal informants making over a hundred thousands dollars & sometime millions & think under these hard times they could make some easy money. They don't understand, this is not about exposing informants. This is about making sure informants & State & Federal agents don't set-up innocent people or use innocent people. That don't understand State & Federal informants are selling weight while putting on a masquerade. Most times State & Federal informants are not monitored. The state & federal government know they can put the fear in states & cities their informants operate. The state & federal government really don't give a shit about corruption they only wanna see the money & end result so they can get that raise & more power. They read about the DEA informant Mr. Johnson who was paid would $50,000 for his work setting-up Buju in & Mr. Johnson was also paid over $3 million in his nefarious work with the DEA & think they to can make millions. They don't here about that Mr. Johnson was also facing a $200,000 IRS tax bill at the time he started working on Buju, so there was a clear financial incentive for the informant, he pointed out. They don't hear about the song Buju is known for, “Boom Boom Bye Bye,” which resulted in a long running feud with the gay community. 
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_9234.shtml

They read about Andrew Chambers who was a DEA informant for 16 years & made millions & think they to can make million, but Andrew is now is prison. 
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/interviews/chambers.html

They don't know about a 23-year-old college student, Clarence Aaron who received three life sentences in a drug conspiracy trial based on the testimony of informants.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snitch/cases/aaron.html

They don't know about Anthony Smith.

WASHINGTON — The FBI gave its informants permission to break the law at least 5,658 times in a single year, according to newly disclosed documents that show just how often the nation's top law enforcement agency enlists criminals to help it battle crime.

The U.S. Justice Department ordered the FBI to begin tracking crimes by its informants more than a decade ago, after the agency admitted that its agents had allowed Boston mobster James "Whitey" Bulger to operate a brutal crime ring in exchange for information about the Mafia. The FBI submits that tally to top Justice Department officials each year, but has never before made it public.

Agents authorized 15 crimes a day, on average, including everything from buying and selling illegal drugs to bribing government officials and plotting robberies. FBI officials have said in the past that permitting their informants — who are often criminals themselves — to break the law is an indispensable, if sometimes distasteful, part of investigating criminal organizations.

"It sounds like a lot, but you have to keep it in context," said Shawn Henry, who supervised criminal investigations for the FBI until he retired last year. "This is not done in a vacuum. It's not done randomly. It's not taken lightly."

USA TODAY obtained a copy of the FBI's 2011 report under the Freedom of Information Act. The report does not spell out what types of crimes its agents authorized, or how serious they were. It also did not include any information about crimes the bureau's sources were known to have committed without the government's permission.

Crimes authorized by the FBI almost certainly make up a tiny fraction of the total number of offenses committed by informants for local, state and federal agencies each year. The FBI was responsible for only about 10% of the criminal cases prosecuted in federal court in 2011, and federal prosecutions are, in turn, vastly outnumbered by criminal cases filed by state and local authorities, who often rely on their own networks of sources.

"The million-dollar question is: How much crime is the government tolerating from its informants?" said Alexandra Natapoff, a professor at Loyola Law School Los Angeles who has studied such issues. "I'm sure that if we really knew that number, we would all be shocked."

A spokeswoman for the FBI, Denise Ballew, declined to answer questions about the report, saying only that the circumstances in which its informants are allowed to break the law are "situational, tightly controlled," and subject to Justice Department policy. The FBI almost always keeps its informants' work secret. The agency said in a 2007 budget request that it has a network of about 15,000 confidential sources.

Justice Department rules put tight limits on when and how those informants can engage in what the agency calls "otherwise illegal activity." Agents are not allowed to authorize violent crimes under any circumstances; the most serious crimes must first be approved by federal prosecutors. Still, the department's Inspector General concluded in 2005 that the FBI routinely failed to follow many of those rules.

The rules require the FBI — but not other law enforcement agencies — to report the total number of crimes authorized by its agents each year. USA TODAY asked the FBI for all of the reports it had prepared since 2006, but FBI officials said they could locate only one, which they released after redacting nearly all of the details.

Other federal law enforcement agencies, including the ATF and the DEA, said last year that they cannot determine how often their informants are allowed to break the law.

"This is all being operated clandestinely. Congress doesn't even have the information," said Rep. Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., who sponsored a bill that would require federal agencies to notify lawmakers about the most serious crimes their informants commit. "I think there's a problem here, and we should have full disclosure to Congress."

Bulger, long a notorious Mob figure, is facing murder and racketeering charges in federal court in Boston. Prosecutors allege that he used his status as an FBI informant to steer police away from his own crime ring. Bulger has not disputed some of the charges against him, but his lawyers insist that he was not an informant; the former crime boss on Friday called the case "a sham."

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SO MAKE MILLIONS WORKING AS A STATE OR FEDERAL INFORMANT.

DEA informant Mr. Johnson who was paid would $50,000 for his work setting-up Buju in & Mr. Johnson was also paid over $3 million in his nefarious work with the DEA.
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_9234.shtml

Andrew Chambers who was a DEA informant for 16 years & made millions, but is now is prison. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/interviews/chambers.html

THE STATE & FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL PUT YOU ON! THEY WILL GIVE YOU THE DRUG OF CHOICE TO SELL. WEED, "H", PILLS, ESPECIALLY PILLS, COKE & METH TO SELL WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET YOU CLOSE TO SOMEONE DOING THE SAME. IF YOU'RE BLACK YOU WILL BE SPONSORED BY THE MOST POPULAR WHITE WOMEN. THEY WILL GIVE YOU COUNTERFEIT MONEY, STOLEN CARS, ANYTHING YOU NEED THAT'S BEEN SEIZED BY THEM. THEY WILL HELP YOU SET-UP INNOCENT PEOPLE YOU DON'T LIKE. GET RID OF COMPETITION SO YOU CAN APPEAR TO BE THE BOSS OR WHATEVER ROLL YOU WANNA PLAY. THEY WILL LET YOU RECRUIT FAMILY & FRIENDS. THEY WILL LET YOU OPEN A SMALL BUSINESS, BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE CONNECTED IN STATE & ESPECIALLY OUT OF STATE BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF STATE WHERE YOU WORK. KEEP YOUR COVER SAFE. IT'S A VERY, VERY VERY, BEAUTIFUL LIFE. YOU WILL BE LIVING THE DREAM!

http://whosarat.websitetoolbox.com/post/federal-informant-masquerade-6188085

HONESTLY, IF YOU DON'T KNOW SOMEONE THAT'S MOVING A LOT OF WEIGHT YOU MAY ONLY MAKE A FEW THOUSAND, WHILE THE DEA, FBI & CIA MAKE A LOT MORE.

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Black & white prestigious fraternities, sororities & organizations try & sweep things nice & clean under the rug when it's concerning their organization, but concerning anything else they try & expose. Anthony Smith can personally take a polygraph test concerning everyone mentioned & everything that happened with any investigative reporter. Thinking about the tremendous amount of opportunity they ruined for Anthony Smith & they still wanna try & spread gossip around. Anthony Smith is not gay or a bisexual, never have been gay or a bisexual, but if they wanna try & make folks think he's gay or a bisexual buy trying to spread stuff around so women want wanna be seen with Anthony Smith. Who can stop them? Regardless of the rumors, Anthony Smith can take a polygraph test with any investigative reporter concerning the Federal agents, informants & others & how he was set-up, the stalking, the rumors, the connection to Freemasons & Order of the Eastern Star, the manipulation of fraternities & sororities & other organizations. How do Anthony Smith know a Grand Imperial Wizard, Scottish Rite Mason that work for the State or Justice Department was involved? Because he told him so, I guess he was thinking who's gonna listen. A Grand Imperial Wizard, Scottish Rite Mason that work for the State or Justice Department can tell people it's snowing in July & they will feel cold.
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I don't care what anybody say, it maybe invisible to the public, but the use of informants is everywhere in the U.S. justice system. Fact are wrong when people talk about informant. The government negotiates thousands of deals with criminal offenders in which suspects can avoid arrest or punishment in exchange for not info, but intell to the streets & a avenue to hustle & become an employee to the U.S. justice system. Remember, informants have lives. Informants aren't out there on the street everyday looking for someone to snitch on. Informants are in relationships, some have kids & they wanna see their kids do the right thing like everybody else. Informants travel with family & friends. Hell, they can write their trips off as tax purposes because they can always say they met someone that's a potential client. Some informants take classes & with the backing of a agent from State or federal they can register for whatever they want because they can afford it tuition. Informants have  friends & sub informants they have to over see. Some informants have small businesses they wanna see flourish. Most importantly, informants have to use strategy when setting up someone so it want blow their cover. Informants can work for over 15 years before they blow their cover. It's not like informants make a deal & that person get arrested. Save that shit for the movies!.
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They make it special for folks that can afford to pay due money to be raised to a 33rd degree. It's the highest paying due money of all Freemasons. You're no longer sitting in a lodge of anyone that can pay for a Master Mason 3rd degree. You're sitting around folks that are prestigious that have careers, but what does this say for a entered apprentice & a master mason? I'm not respected, I'm not truly a Freemason? I think this is why you have so many inactive members, not to mention those fake lodges & those that change the ritual to their own interpretation that think they make the fraternal organization. Those that try to play puppet master to the puppets. I"ll tell you what, you can take all the due money from the Grand lodges of Ohio & it wouldn't put a dent in the Free & Accepted Freemasons charity donations, quarterly & annually reports or their membership. I'm not trying to hurt the charity donations, the due money or the growth of the membership. You can't, it's just extremely too much power. Even with small lodges of everyday blue collar Freemasons. Why? Because a 33rd degree Freemason that pass through their lodges may hold secrets about certain members or lie about secrets, secrets that's too much for their family to bare. Look, I'm not saying all Freemasons are gay or follow the same ritual, but the ritual speak for itself & with hundreds of thousands of active & over a million inactive members you can't tell me that you don't have one or two in a few lodges that are bisexual & gay. That mean all lodges from every gender & ethnicity have a hell of a lot of homosexuals & gay Freemason members. I'm just trying to open eyes to folks of the influence over members. The power come from members that have personal alternative motives & they hide behind the name of the Fraternal organization because they understand it's power in numbers. But they have alternative motives & they know other prestigious members belong to other organizations, fraternities & sororities from all walks of life that will carry their voices. It's not that hard to believe.     
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When folks say they're being stalked by a federal informant & a jealous crazy ex girlfriend. It sounds to crazy to be true because it's not something that happen everyday to everyone. Not everyone use their degree & prestige to go after  ex-lovers, especially in law enforcement. 

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/27/politics/nsa-snooping/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 


(CNN) -- The National Security Agency's internal watchdog detailed a dozen instances in the past decade in which its employees intentionally misused the agency's surveillance power, in some cases to snoop on their love interests.

A letter from the NSA's inspector general responding to a request by Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, lists the dozen incidents where the NSA's foreign intelligence collection systems were abused. The letter also says there are two additional incidents now under investigation and another allegation pending that may require an investigation.

At least six of the incidents were referred to the Justice Department for possible prosecution or additional action; none appear to have resulted in charges. The letter doesn't identify the employees.

Several of the cases involve so-called "Loveint" violations.

In one case, detailed by the NSA's watchdog, a civilian intelligence employee assigned overseas was found to have used the NSA's signals intelligence collection system to listen to the phone conversations on nine phone numbers belonging to foreign women from 1998 to 2003 without any valid reason. The signals intelligence system is used to spy on foreign targets for national security reasons.

The case began because a woman, a foreign national employed by the U.S. government, told another employee she suspected the man with whom she was in a sexual relationship was listening to her calls. The employee who misused the NSA's systems also incidentally collected the communications of a U.S. resident on two occasions, a move that requires a court warrant.

The NSA's vast surveillance powers are under fire after the disclosure of internal documents by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. Intelligence officials have sought to defend the NSA's surveillance activities by saying the agency doesn't misuse its authority.

Grassley wrote to the NSA last month seeking to find out how often the NSA's authorities are misused.

"I appreciate the transparency that the Inspector General has provided to the American people," Grassley said in a statement. "We shouldn't tolerate even one instance of misuse of this program. Robust oversight of the program must be completed to ensure that both national security and the Constitution are protected."

In many cases the employees who intentionally abused the NSA's spying systems resigned before they could be punished. Several were demoted in rank or otherwise sanctioned.

In one 2004 case, a civilian employee told NSA security that she had spied on a foreign phone number because she found it on her husband's cell phone and suspected he was being unfaithful. She collected his phone calls. The employee's infraction was referred to the Justice Department, but she resigned before she could be fired.

Some of the violations appear to have been uncovered by the NSA's own auditing systems.Others were self-reported, including one during a polygraph of an employee.

One employee violated NSA's rules on the first day he had access to the agency's signals intelligence collection system.

He queried six e-mail addresses belonging to a former girlfriend. He told investigators he wanted "to practice on the system" using his former girlfriend's e-mail addresses and that he received no information, and hadn't read any emails. He was demoted and his pay was reduced, and the NSA's inspector general recommended he not be given a security clearance.

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Now they're trying to act like Anthony Smith is a old trying to pick up college girls. First of all, Anthony Smith isn't old & what's wrong with a grown man with a female over the age of 21? Hell, I see older white men with Asian & Indian women all the time on campus, of course they go unnoticed to other whites & blacks, especially black women because they're white older men. If a older white man approach an Asian or Indian student the Asian & Indian student wouldn't ask every white student about the older white man before contacting him. I asked a few  older white guys are they a professors or a student? They're not students, faculty, staff or a parent that adopt Asians. Matter fact, how many times do older white college professors & professional white men travel to Thailand & Vietnam for sex? Second, there's no cut off age to be on a college campus. Homosexual, gay Scottish Rite Freemason working with their federal informant need to go back to the drawing board & come up with more rumors to keep women off Anthony Smith.
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Shan drive pass Anthony Smith to see what he's wearing so Shan can go on college students facebook & tweeter account & spread bullshit. Shan don't have to use twitter or facebook because Shan could just text the students he's selling drugs to. Shan call himself trying to humiliate Anthony Smith because Anthony know Shan is a federal informant. Shan think he can get college students to recognize Anthony Smith by his clothing. They can see Anthony Smith face because Anthony ant got nothing to hide from or nobody to run from. Shan a 40 year old pathetic informant. What 40 year old man you know spend his time driving around to see what someone is wearing so he can spread rumors? Shan think because when he drive pass Anthony nobody speak to Anthony because Anthony is by himself. Drive your ass around a high school & try & recruit one of them young boys or go sit in the county for a while & recruit one of them juveniles. Shan you a snitch do some snitch work. Ant nobody got time for that!

Federal Informant that's in his 40's allowed to take over college campuses & is supplied the best drugs to sell. Most students don't think they could get in trouble because they're not buying drugs, counterfeit money or stolen cars that's been flipped to sell they're buying to use so they don't care. The funny thing is that Shan is working college campuses to make his cousin look stupid because his cousin know Shan is a federal informant. Shan & his cousin haven't stood face to face since 2002. Shan want stand face to face with his cousin in a private place because he ruined a tremendous amount of opportunity for his cousin by bringing the United States government in his life & having a federal agent set his cousin up. But isn't that something? A federal informant & his sub informants are locking down college campuses across the country.
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I notice when Freemasons, that's pretty much just a member, read some of Anthony Smith post on other discussion boards can't handle what he posted they come back with garbage because they feel offended. SO What! Most of Anthony Smith post are from the heart. When he copy & past, he say's here's the article. I never seen a post from Anthony Smith where he's taking credit from someone else work. It remind me of white supremacist that think blacks aren't that smart. I know the Black Freemasons like to think that they're not on that because it please the majority race, but racism is growing, not ending. Most Black Freemasons  don't even make up, no where close to the foundation of the Freemasons, the members that earn between $20,000 & 7 figures are nothing but cash cows to attract other members to eat off of. Of course not all Black Freemasons are working on a degree or are college grads. If that was the case the 13% of the black population would be elite. Now that's saying something. The best they can do is fight between one another & spread rumors.
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I wonder how honored law enforcement officers who make sacrifices & put their lives on the line to protect & serve feel about state & federal informants who make over $50,000 to over a 100,000? The DEA Lacks an Effective and Accurate Confidential Source Payment System.

Do you think ex-military narcotics officers, drug task force, DEA, FBI & CIA agents spend years studying in college to successfully finish all phases of the rigorous in-depth hiring process all so that a high school drop out, drug user, paid informant can make hundreds of thousands of dollars, in some cases even millions of dollars on the street without them getting their cut?

Michele Leonhart, head of the DEA cut was power & a 3 billion budget. I really don't think folks like Michele Leonhart really care or think about the people who lives are ruined & in Anthony Smith case a tremendous amount of opportunity. You take informants like Jerrell Bray who worked as a DEA informant until he was caught & put into the papers after setting up 19 people, the courts had to release all 19 people. Michele Leonhart don't give a shit about none of those 19 people or people like Anthony Smith, just as long as none of those people can sue the United States of America. Folks like Michele Leonhart would rather attack those people by putting agents on them to make them look like they have a sever mental illness & non credible & desperate so no one cares. When the DEA or FBI attack dogs go after someone it's for a long period of time. That person want have a friend in the world, not even the Taliban would wanna be that person friend & they may not even see it coming. It's a lil' more than character assassination because the victims aren't celebrities they don't have the media, they have no voice & some don't see it coming & the ones that do who cares? Not Michele Leonhart.   

This is not made up! This is a USA Today Article
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/05/dea-reactivates-controversial-informant/2390989/

PHOENIX -- A government informant who was terminated by the Justice Department years ago amid accusations of serial perjury has been reactivated and is working an undercover drug case with DEA agents in Phoenix, prompting allegations of government misconduct by a defense lawyer in a pending case.

Andrew Chambers Jr., once labeled in court records as "the highest-paid snitch in DEA history," gave false testimony under oath in at least 16 criminal prosecutions nationwide before he was exposed in the late 1990s, according to U.S. District Court filings.

Chambers was an informant from 1984 to 2000 for the Drug Enforcement Administration and other federal agencies in at least 280 cases. The sting operations, which sent dozens of suspects to prison, took place in 31 cities across the nation.

During his first career as an informant, Chambers, 56, reportedly received up to $4 million in government money, nearly half of that from the DEA. He also was a paid informant of the FBI, customs-enforcement officers, postal inspectors, the Secret Service and other police agencies. He was credited with a role in 445 drug arrests.

The DEA conducted an internal probe in 2000 documenting Chambers' dishonesty after defense lawyers and the media criticized the pattern of perjury and a lack of federal oversight. The Republic has obtained a copy of the 157-page Management Review, which says the DEA deactivated Chambers indefinitely as a confidential source on Feb. 2, 2000.

Yet, somehow, he resurrected his career and surfaced in Phoenix about three years ago in a sting that targeted defendant Luis Alberto Hernandez-Flores, accused as the kingpin in a major drug-trafficking organization.

Cameron Morgan, an attorney for Hernandez-Flores, filed a motion to dismiss charges or suppress testimony after uncovering the informant's background.

"The DEA rehired Mr. Chambers, is using him in investigations all over the country, is again paying him exorbitant amounts of money and refuses to provide discovery about what he's up to," Morgan wrote in a petition under consideration by U.S. District Judge Stephen McNamee. "If Chambers were nothing more than a run-of-the-mill criminal, that would be one thing. But both Chambers and his defenders in the DEA brag that he is a con man extraordinaire."

Chambers could not be reached for comment. It is unclear if he has a lawyer.

Eric E. Sterling, president of the Criminal Justice Policy Foundation, a Washington, D.C., think tank, expressed shock when told that a known perjurer is again working in the justice system.

"Wow! That's pretty outrageous," saidSterling, former assistant counsel to the House Subcommittee on Crime. "It's just inexcusable. ... This is really a breakdown in the management of the DEA and the Department of Justice."

Dawn Dearden, a DEA spokeswoman in Washington, said she cannot discuss ongoing investigations or Chambers' activities. "However," she added, "I can say that DEA follows very strict and rigorous guidelines and protocols when handling all informants."

Public-affairs officers at the U.S. Attorney's Office in Phoenix and the Justice Department did not respond to interview requests.

During a 2000 appearance on the PBS show "Frontline" about his controversial career, Chambers said he helped bust criminals not for the money but because he didn't want them selling drugs to his kids. "You need more people like me out there to deal with these guys."

Chambers also was featured in 2000 on the ABC News broadcast "20/20." He admitted giving false testimony about his criminal history, saying, "I just lied about it. I didn't think it was that important what I did."

Richard Fiano, then chief of operations at the DEA, told reporter Connie Chung that repeated, court-documented perjuries by Chambers "fell through the cracks" at his agency. "Would DEA use him (again)?" Fiano said. "No."

Past misrepresented

The DEA's internal investigation of Chambers in 2000 generally exonerated federal agents and prosecutors.

It said the informant was not urged to lie by agents or prosecutors. It asserts that his dozens of handlers were unaware of the deceit because of communication failures within the agency. Among those handlers was current DEA Director Michele Leonhart, who worked with Chambers as a field agent in St. Louis and as an administrator in Los Angeles. There is no public record of any DEA employee receiving discipline.

The DEA management review, a detailed inquiry conducted by the Office of Inspections, said Chambers misrepresented his past to sanitize his image and credibility. It asserted that his fibs were not germane to guilt or innocence of defendants.

The report listed numerous cases in which he gave false testimony about his criminal history. In at least a half-dozen trials and depositions, he denied any arrests or convictions even though he has been arrested 13 times and has a conviction for soliciting prostitution.

Chambers also testified falsely about his education and taxes, the report alleged: In a Florida case, for example, he swore that he had attended Iowa Wesleyan College for three years; he was there only one semester. He testified that he paid taxes on $60,000 of informant earnings during the previous year even though he filed no return.

When confronted with his contradictions on the witness stand during the 1990s, Chambers admitted under oath that he had repeatedly given false testimony. In the "Frontline" interview, he said he was accused of lying "because I didn't say that I had been arrested for traffic tickets." He added that he solicited a hooker to further his undercover role.

Federal prosecutor Stephen Wolfe described Chambers in a 1999 appellate case before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals as "undefendable" because of his deceit and said the DEA's repeated failure to confront and disclose the perjury was "carelessness, recklessness and probably deliberate," according to a transcript.

Yet Chambers was not not charged with perjury or with tax evasion. Justice Department officials declined to explain the lack of prosecution. In 2000, federal attorneys in Miami and South Carolina threw out criminal indictments because of Chambers' damaged credibility. News accounts at the time predicted a flurry of appeals nationwide by prison inmates seeking to have their convictions overturned; it is unknown how many appeals were filed or how many of those efforts were successful.

'Serial perjurer'

The DEA report said all of Chambers' interactions with suspects were recorded except for first contacts. Defense attorneys view those initial meetings as critical to establishing whether Chambers entrapped their clients — inducing them to commit crimes that would not otherwise have occurred.

The DEA sought to conceal records of Chambers' work from attorneys who filed a request for documents under the Freedom of Information Act. A federal court in the District of Columbia ordered the release of the materials, noting that the plaintiffs provided "compelling evidence ... suggesting massive government misconduct."

After revelations about Chambers became public in 2000, then-Attorney General Janet Reno suspended his use as an operative.

Nevertheless, federal court records in Arizona show that Chambers was quietly reactivated about five years ago and took on a controversial role in the Hernandez-Flores case now being litigated in Phoenix.

In his May 21 motion to dismiss charges against his client Hernandez-Flores, who was indicted in March 2012 on charges of narcotics possession and conspiracy, defense attorney Cameron Morgan ripped the government for employing a "serial perjurer" who was previously banished from informant work.

Morgan declined to be interviewed for this story but confirmed this week that he forwarded information about Chambers to justice committees of the U.S. Senate and House.

In court papers, Morgan said federal officials provided an "open-ended grant of immunity" and paid a lot of money for testimony from a confessed perjurer. "At some point, the danger to the integrity of the court system is too great," he wrote, arguing that charges should be thrown out or that testimony should be precluded because of "outrageous government conduct."

Duping criminals

A St. Louis Post-Dispatch story on Jan. 16, 2000, described Chambers as a high-school dropout who became an informant after failing to qualify as an agent. The story, headlined, "Top U.S. drug snitch is a legend and a liar," also said he was an expert at duping criminals as well as the federal agents who employed him.

Chambers' rap sheet contains at least 13 arrests on suspicion of assault, forgery and other crimes, according to public records. There is one conviction: In 1995, he was snared in a Denver sting operation in which undercover female officers posed as prostitutes. He also was charged with impersonating a federal agent at the time of that arrest, according to multiple published reports.

Federal authorities today refuse to divulge who authorized the 2008 reactivation of Chambers as an operative or why.

It is unknown when he started doing cases in Arizona. Morgan's motion says a supervising federal prosecutor in Phoenix endorsed the decision. Former U.S. Attorney Diane Humetewa, who served in 2008, said she has no recollection of Chambers. Her successor, Dennis Burke, could not be reached.

'One in a million'

A review of the Nexis database for U.S. media articles shows no coverage of Chambers' resurrection during the past five years. He is mentioned only in a 2010 news release that criticized the Obama administration for appointing Leonhart as DEA director despite her "close professional relationship" with the tainted informant.

Leonhart worked with Chambers as a drug investigator in Missouri during the 1980s and then as special agent in charge of the DEA's Los Angeles office.

The Post-Dispatch report in 2000 quoted her as saying Chambers was "very credible, an outstanding testifier." She also bemoaned the possibility that his undercover work would end.

"That would be a sad day for the DEA," she told the newspaper. "He's one in a million."

Leonhart was confirmed by the Senate in 2010 as DEA administrator, overseeing 10,000 employees and a $3 billion budget. She had been deputy director since 2004 and was in that post when Chambers was reinstated as an operative.

Leonhart declined an interview request.

H. Dean Steward, a Southern California defense attorney who helped expose Chambers in 1999, said it is obvious who revived Chambers' undercover career: "Michele Leonhart, head of the DEA. She was his handling agent. ... I'm convinced he's back in business because of her."

Steward said Chambers routinely fails to record introductory meetings with suspects, as happened in the Hernandez-Flores case in Phoenix.

That practice, he said, allows for possible entrapment with lies to suspects and for fabricated accounts in court. Defense lawyers, unable to disprove Chambers' testimony, attack his credibility. Judges and jurors must decide whether to believe the informer.

"The significance is, he can say anything he wants," Steward said. "He can lie. ... Supporting criminal cases with an admitted liar and perjurer perverts the entire system. To do it twice over 20-plus years is shocking."

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