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To the person who sent this comment,

1 you are missing the whole point and if your not, For some strange reason Why you think that people That have been CHARGED of a crime should not be able to defend themselves or investigate their accusers or use the right to free speech I think you need to move to another country because if you stay and others have your view point we will eventually loose all our rights.

2 If you are so confident in your beliefs why the bogus email and anonymous name Grow some Balls!!!



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Email: 1234@yousuck.com

Comments: It is very sad that someone has time to create a site such as this. Someone needs to get a real job. This could place good people in danger. Whoever created this site needs to be kicked out of America. Why would anyone want to help criminals. You are only making America less safe for your self. If you don\\\\\\\'t like our government go somewhere else. Like Iraq.


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Comments: It is very sad that someone has time to create a site such as this...Why would anyone want to help criminals.


1. This site doesn't help criminals. This site helps the innocent.

2. Everyone should want to help criminals. If the system was more concerned with helping criminals than punishing them, recidivism wouldn't be such a problem.

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Actually since this board went up a bunch of us baddass "terrible" enforcement types have decided to start posting license plates and digital pics up of perps, cons, goons, whores, druggies, illegal Mexicans, and including all their personal info (SSN, DOB, credit card numbers, bank accounts - both foreign and domestic - the kids and wife's names, etc.). Hey, why not.

I mean, what's sauce for the goose, should be geese for the gander.

Or sumpthin' like that.

We'll send you guys all the links once we have our sites up.

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If you think you can organize an effort like that without a committee do it. You're right, you should post the pics of all the crack corners and intel you get on the crooks. But your own system wont allow it to happen because you have too many officials that are financing the thugs that are expendable.
Of course you won't do anything about them now will you? If you had the guts to take investigations to the end instead of stopping when you get your first bust you would discover that in a large percentage of the cases it's your own boss that's behind your problems. Ask Micheal Levine. At least he had the where with alls to see the truth of the matter.
As for the other, well you know as well as anyone that you play with a stacked deck. And most of the people you chase and eventually arrest are just people that have given up on life anyway. We never hear about the smart crooks, only the stupid ones.
So post them....we won't hold our breath




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Actually since this board went up a bunch of us baddass "terrible" enforcement types have decided to start posting license plates and digital pics up of perps, cons, goons, whores, druggies, illegal Mexicans, and including all their personal info (SSN, DOB, credit card numbers, bank accounts - both foreign and domestic - the kids and wife's names, etc.). Hey, why not.

I mean, what's sauce for the goose, should be geese for the gander.

Or sumpthin' like that.

We'll send you guys all the links once we have our sites up.
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Actually since this board went up a bunch of us baddass "terrible" enforcement types have decided to start posting license plates and digital pics up of perps, cons, goons, whores, druggies, illegal Mexicans, and including all their personal info (SSN, DOB, credit card numbers, bank accounts - both foreign and domestic - the kids and wife's names, etc



AceGMan,

You Make a good point , I think the whosarat.com webmaster should enable the add a agent photo button so we can start posting pictures again of you guys and Maybe he should get a little more creative with the agent profile section and use the suggestions that you are using on your websites for the agent profile section. Thanks That's a great Idea to make this site evan better.
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First of all, for you to assume that all cops are crooked, jack-booted thugs, is ironic. Considering that a part of your "plight" is that all narcotic users are generalized as hardened criminals, you would think you would be less likely to generalize.

Secondly, if you do not sell drugs, you wouldnt have a need for a site such as this. I will concede that good people do bad things(i.e. illegal things)however, even a good person who has made a mistake such as selling drugs or anything else is still not exempt from consequence. You have to pay to play. That's life. If you take your chances slingin' and chance doesn't favor you, well then, own your mistake.

I, like a good percentage of cops, was not always a cop. In fact I was quite the opposite. After a lengthy, "checkered" past, a whole lot of death and incarceration, luckily I had beat all attempts at felony convictions, and was able to go into the military and then eventually law enforcement. You cannot tell me that narcotics do not sully human life. Well granted, so does alcohol, but that is not illegal. I have witnessed the very worst of the human condition,be it in my past or in my career, and in most cases, some sort of narcotic was at the core of it.

I am in no way saying that all persons who smoke marijuana will inevitably move to other drugs and other illicit behavior, although in the gross majority of cases they will. If you are able to moderately enjoy your personal use narcotics and not effect anyone else, good for you.

I think it is rediculous for a bunch of people, who most likely got hemmed up on some small narcotics charge, to operate a website that is potentially devestating to human life. Are snitches scurge of the earth? In most cases yes, and no one knows better than the police. Snitches, and small time users are necessary to get to the large-scale offenders slinging thier poison. I assure you if we could cut out the middle man (personal users) and get straight to the dealers, we would. However in our legal system that is not possible.

As far as the police you have mentioned on your website, many of them are police working in much more involved cases than little johnny and his twenty sack. Many of these cases involve money laundering, racketeering, drugs, murder, rape, armed criminal action and so on. You are doing nothing more than attempting to foil their heartfelt efforts and dedication to their respective communities, like a child pouting when he loses and yelling, "I'll show you".

Finally, a little food for thought. A number of the people listed on your site are not informants at all. I assume they were put there by people who are either mad at them or attempting to alleviate suspicion from themselves. But, they are all shit, so be it. If someone believes the entry on one of these to be true, well I am sure it will in some way level the playing feel.

I do want to commend whoever removed the option of adding a picture on the agents. That is better than nothing. I implore you though to rethink this site. But thats on you, thanks for your indulgence.
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Good cop,

I for one have never implied that "all" cops are crooked, there are "many" good / honest cops out there. This website was designed to help people charged with a Non Violent crime to investigate their accusers, it is similar to "time-tested investigative techniques," such as going door to door with a photograph to get information on a witness. with hopes of gathering useful info to use against the accuser / Informant at trial, Only this is todays technology. You say "You have to pay to play" What about the Informants that played REAL HARD got caught realized their game was over and became RATS, In most scenarios like that especially with the FEDS particularly the "DEA" the Guy who Played the hardest is rewarded with things like citizenship,Cash,Housing,and a get out of jail free card, This sends out the wrong message, Another words If your going to break the law you might as well do it in a big way,As long as you have useful info or you are willing to entrap people It will not matter if you get caught because you can just switch sides not go to jail and get paid,This is ridiculous the Law should apply to everyone not just to those who do not have useful info or who do not want to get someone else in trouble for their own mess. For example think about this take todays mandatory minimum sentences which were designed to target our country's biggest criminals Than factor in The only way you can get under the mandatory minimums is if you cooperate, this means you have to have some very useful info, The guys at the top of a criminal Enterprise have all the info,So the Guy at the bottom of that Enterprise gets smoked and the top guy gets rewarded which is why a very large majority of this country's prison population are non-violent first time offenders, Whats the point of having Mandatory minimums? I am not sure if this is how the state courts work But I know for a fact that this is how The FEDS operate,If you are federal officer you already know this, But if you are not ask around and I am sure that you will be shocked at what you learn or you can reference Click Here Also a large majority of Todays Rats are Hardcore Junkies "Heroin @ Crack" These people will steal from their own families to get another hit, So if they are being paid from lets say the DEA "who is famous for this" Than they now have a big incentive to lie because they want and need more drugs.The DEA knows the control that Heroin has over people and they use it to their advantage, So as I guess its obvious by now I am no fan of hard drugs or the DEA and I truly believe and have facts to back me up that this drug War has failed and will never be won Drugs are cheaper and more readily available than they have ever been, "This Drug War has been going on for two decades, Whats the point? I say take the funding from the DEA the highest funded federal agency and put it to-wards rehabilitation and education. As for the marijuana vs alcohol analysis I think most educated citizens can see that alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana "No one has ever died from smoking marijuana" Can you say that about alcohol? Legal or not Marijuana makes more sense. You state that "we operate a website that is potentially devastating to human life" No one has ever been killed by a website, We do not encourage any violence to-wards Informants or Officers, Granted We are sure that Informants will be uncomfortable with websites like this and we could care less,the intent of the site is not to intimidate, but to gather evidence for trial.
Again we wish them no harm but we have NO sympathy for RATS, and their feelings do not warrant restricting this websites users Fifth and Sixth Amendment right to investigate their case or their first amendment right to freedom of speech.Our personal belief is that most of the entry's are legit some may be false and we advise users of this site about that possibility,In comparison what about the sex offender registry website, Granted these people are lower than rats and are the scum of society but they are people, and after they serve their time there picture and "exact address" is put on a website, If your analogy is correct than whosarat.com pales in comparison to government operated sex offender registry websites as being potentially devastating to human life since the profiles do not give an exact address. You also say in regards to cops that we are "doing nothing more than attempting to foil their heartfelt efforts and dedication to their respective communities, like a child pouting when he loses and yelling, "I'll show you"." You have a right to your opinion and we have three amendments and case law on our side, I also want to commend you on your well written post, Unfortunately writing is not one of my specialties.

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If you think you can organize an effort like that without a committee do it. You're right, you should post the pics of all the crack corners and intel you get on the crooks. But your own system wont allow it to happen because you have too many officials that are financing the thugs that are expendable.
Of course you won't do anything about them now will you? If you had the guts to take investigations to the end instead of stopping when you get your first bust you would discover that in a large percentage of the cases it's your own boss that's behind your problems. Ask Micheal Levine. At least he had the where with alls to see the truth of the matter.
As for the other, well you know as well as anyone that you play with a stacked deck. And most of the people you chase and eventually arrest are just people that have given up on life anyway. We never hear about the smart crooks, only the stupid ones.
So post them....we won't hold our breath




This is absolutely laughable.  I thought you guys didn't like informants, then along comes this dolt who says the cops should "take investigations to the end".  Well how do you suggest that gets done?  With INFORMANTS.

You guys have your heads so far up your collective assess, it's quite funny.
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hay 1234@yousuck calm down.pull your panties out of your ass and your head while your at it.if this site is so bad why our you even on it?I'm just guessing where you live you act like a rich hot shot that trys to run every body's life?go to church act good than get on here trying to control every one.you go to Iraq.if people want to speak on here they will.and as you know god loves every one the same.all sins are equal.so for you to judge people on here is as big a sin as for the crime the people may brake is.have a good day sinner.god loves you

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...OK.   Informants......are paid how???   Mr. Officer ??? and their actions.....are ignored and or condoned????   To do what and for what outcome, SIR!?????


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mm, it's inetersting reading the posts from cops...they do seem very 'adversarial' in attitude

I ask them, why do you seek to 'take on' the public. This is not a healthy attitude.

Have some respect or you'll be taught some!

Blessed be,

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Worth remembering that that the British invented policemen to protect rich bastards property!

Illegal things neccessarily = bad.

Oh Jesus fucking christ FUCK OFF. (naive/evil and usually always power abusing perverted fldth)

Jah Liberation!

King Amdo

To the pig that says 'make my day'. Oh if only nonce...Makes one respect the Pashtun of 'North West Frontier'.... Stay out of the Tribal areas government scum, or you'll have FUCKING SERIOUS PROBLEMS. End of fucking story. End of fucking head game.
Fuck you and fuck off.

Allah Akbar.
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