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joeb
Registered: 11/14/05
Posts: 3,194

    03/31/06 at 12:44 AM
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I will post evidence later that FBI agents created the first world trade center bombing. This is evidence they do not refute. They just put a different spin on it.
With the fall of the Berlin Wall communism was no longer the boogeyman
FBI agents could use as a pretense to break into your home,open your mail, tap you phone; with FBI agents implicated in voter fraud, the Martin Luther King assassination, the President Kennedy assassination,
etc etc etc they desperately needed the Patriot Act. Using FBI provacteurs who organized and trained individuals who were willing to carry out the attacks , FBI agents were able to distance themselves from the acts using plausible denial. They learned from their mistakes in these two events to create 911 differently.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5723386,00.html

Judge Backs Lawyer in FBI-Okla. City Link


Friday March 31, 2006 4:01 AM

By PAUL FOY

Associated Press Writer

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - A federal judge on Thursday rewrote a sentence to clarify a ruling that had suggested Timothy McVeigh received help from paramilitary militias in the Oklahoma City bombing and that the government had an informant in the bombing conspiracy.

U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball had issued a decision that called those two claims ``fact.'' Asked if he was endorsing the conspiracy theories, Kimball issued a new decision late Thursday to attribute both claims to a Salt Lake City lawyer.

The lawyer, Jesse Trentadue, is trying to expose FBI evidence he contends will show the bureau was tipped to McVeigh's plans but failed to stop the Oklahoma City bombing. FBI officials have repeatedly refused to address Trentadue's claims.

Trentadue is also trying to prove that his brother - a bank robber who died in federal custody after being picked up on a parole violation - was mistaken for an associate of McVeigh's in the frantic search for conspirators after the bombing, and was killed by federal agents during an interrogation gone awry.

In his original 23-page decision, released late Wednesday, Kimball singled out one FBI teletype already released to Trentadue, but in heavily edited form.

The judge, who has inspected the unedited version of the memo, first wrote: ``The plaintiff (Trentadue) points out the fact that this document indicates that there was an undercover operative in with Timothy McVeigh and members of the various militia groups who aided and supported McVeigh.''

The judge rewrote the sentence to eliminate the word ``fact'' and substitute: ``The plaintiff claims that this document indicates that there was an undercover operative in with Timothy McVeigh and members of the various militia groups who aided and supported McVeigh.''

Kimball's decision orders the FBI to redouble a search for investigative files that could reveal what agents knew about McVeigh before the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, but he said the bureau could black out some information about informants.

McVeigh was executed in 2001 for the bombing that gutted a federal office building and killed 168.

The judge said he found it ``troubling'' that the FBI's efforts to locate documents required by his earlier rulings have not turned up more memos, including ones the FBI's own files suggested existed at one time.

``While the FBI's failure to discover documents is not necessarily an indication of bad faith, it is puzzling that so many documents could be referenced but not produced,'' the judge wrote.

The FBI is supposed to turn over any new documents it finds to Trentadue by June 2.

Trentadue has obtained some FBI teletypes on his own and others under a Freedom of Information request, and he sued to force more disclosures.

Kimball ruled in Trentadue's favor early on and ordered the release of some heavily edited teletypes, but the FBI vigorously fought any additional releases. At a November hearing the Justice Department asked Kimball to reconsider his earlier rulings and stop the disclosures.

Kimball ruled the FBI did not have to produce teletypes that would reveal confidential informants among a white supremacist group in Oklahoma. But he ordered the FBI to renew a search for other documents.

``My assumption is the FBI will comply with the order,'' said Carlie Christensen, an assistant U.S. attorney who represented the FBI in court hearings here. ``On balance, we're quite pleased with the ruling.''

FBI officials declined comment.

Trentadue's battle for FBI records is primarily motivated by his brother's bloody death. The U.S. Bureau of Prisons has said Kenneth Trentadue, 44, was found hanging by a bedsheet after gouging his neck with the crimped edge of a plastic toothpaste tube.

Jesse Trentadue contends his brother was killed by federal agents during a vicious fight inside a one-man cell of a high-security wing at the Federal Transfer Center in Oklahoma City, only weeks after McVeigh's indictment.

In his decision, Kimball said Jesse Trentadue had ``unearthed significant evidence of foul play'' in his brother's death.
joeb
Registered: 11/14/05
Posts: 3,194

    04/02/06 at 12:07 AM
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From:         "C. Emery" <chrisemery@cox.net>
To:         hardevidence@cosmicpenguin.com
Date:         01 Apr 2006, 01:25:55 PM
Subject:         911 - Pentagon - New OFFICIAL STORY page
Russell,

You're correct. The 'official story' of the Pentagon crash is very bizarre. It's shatters the cognitive dissonance paradigm

And to think I've had people ask me to NOT research the 911 disaster. "to...withhold my comments and stick only with the Oklahoma City Bombing Case...".

For heavens sake, the similarities as far as the planning, commission and cover-up are nearly duplicated from OKC to TWA 800 to 911. And the same cast of top level DOJ and FBI supervisors are involved. There is absolutely NO denying that!

Charles Key and I have been invited to speak at the 911truth.org conference in Chicago this coming June. We will be hosting a workshop on both the OKC bombing and 911 and the similarities of both cases. See: http://www.911truth.org and the June 2006 calendar of events for more details.

We will be covering the controlled demolition aspects, the corrupt investigations, the inept, irresponsibly written BPAT/ASCE summary reports and several dozen other points clarifying that the level of state sponsored terrorism within the U.S. has indeed escalated during the past eleven years. All for the ulterior motive of entering a war [a blatant coup of the Iraqi government] under false pretense against phantom terrorists that the CIA and U.S. / Israeli governments have trained and funded during the past forty years!

I am deeply disturbed that I have no other choice than to state what appears to be obvious: This country has been hijacked by a small, corrupt group of people that have no regard for human life nor the letter of U.S. Constitutional or International law. And our Supreme Court appointed president and his criminal cabal are merely puppets at the beck and call of this same corrupt group.

I think it is brilliant that you start with 'The Official Story' essay and suggest your readers progress to the introduction thereafter.

Again, superb work with your presentation.

Regards,

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Pickering
To: sf911physicalevidence@cosmicpenguin.com ; hardevidence@cosmicpenguin.com
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:40 AM
Subject: [HardEvidence]New OFFICIAL STORY page

This is a consolidation of all the "official story" facts in one place. It turns out that it is more bizarre than our theories when you see it.

http://www.pentagonresearch.com/summary.html

Russell

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joeb
Registered: 11/14/05
Posts: 3,194

    03/13/08 at 01:14 PM
Reply with quote#3

March 13, 2008
Robert Reich Says Telecoms Shouldn't Get Immunity for Spying for the NSA
House Democrats are right to try to deny telecommunications companies protection from lawsuits over National Security Agency wiretaps, writes Robert Reich, a former labor secretary under President Clinton and now a professor of public policy at Berkeley.

Im old enough to remember J. Edgar Hoovers FBI and Nixons CIA, and the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978. But anyone whos even halfway sentient ought to know theres a Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. So youd think that executives at the nations biggest telecoms  AT&T, Verizon, and so on  would be alert to the possibility that government might illegally snoop on Americans. Yet these executives didnt blink an eye when the NSA came knocking. You want records of domestic phone calls Sure, help yourself E-mails Yeah, we got tons. Theyre yours!
. . . Corporate executives have a duty to disobey government orders when they have reason to believe those orders are illegal or unconstitutional  and make the government go to court to get what it wants. The duty to refuse is especially important when it comes to the nations telecoms, whose technological reach is extending deeper and deeper into our private lives.
Sure, theres a delicate balance between fighting terrorism and protecting civil liberties. But thats for courts to decide - not spy agencies and not telecom executives.

joeb
Registered: 11/14/05
Posts: 3,194

    03/14/08 at 03:00 PM
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Marion Cotillard's 9/11 conspiracy theory


By Peter Allen in Paris
Last Updated: 2:38am GMT 04/03/2008

Oscar-winning Marion Cotillard was facing embarrasment with her new American public last night after it emerged that she doubted the official account of the September 11 attacks.

  • Update: Cotillard makes rapid U-turn after backlash
  • Read the French transcript of Marion Cotillard's interview
  • The 32-year-old French star has swept this year’s best actress awards, also receiving a Bafta, Golden Globe and a CĂ©sar for her performance as singer Edith Piaf in La Vie en Rose.

     
    Marion Cotillard
    Marion Cotillard questioned the September 11th attacks and the moon landings

    Miss Cotillard, who earned under ÂŁ1 million in 2007, could expect her Oscar success to significantly increase her earning power. She is due to start filming Public Enemies with Johnny Depp.

    But the actress faces a potential backlash in the US over comments she made in an interview in France. Footage which surfaced on the internet showed her questioning the New York terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and the 1969 moon landing.

    "I think we’re lied to about a number of things," she said, singling out September 11.

    Referring to the two passenger jets flown into the World Trade Centre, Miss Cotillard said: "We see other towers of the same kind being hit by planes, are they burned? There was a tower, I believe it was in Spain, which burned for 24 hours.

    It never collapsed. None of these towers collapsed. And there [New York], in a few minutes, the whole thing collapsed."

    Miss Cotillard suggested that the towers, planned in the early 1960s, were an outdated "money sucker" which would have cost so much to modernise that it was easier to destroy them.

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    Turning to America’s space programme, she said: "Did a man really walk on the moon? I saw plenty of documentaries on it, and I really wondered. And in any case I don’t believe all they tell me, that’s for sure."

    Miss Cotillard, who was born and brought up in Paris, made the comments on Paris Premiùre – Paris Derniùre (Paris First – Paris Last), a programme first broadcast a year ago.

    They were largely ignored at the time, but appeared yesterday on a French website. Miss Cotillard’s film career began in Luc Besson’s 1998 film Taxi. She is an environmental activist, who once worked as a spokeswoman for Greenpeace.

    News of Miss Cotillard’s comments comes at a time when Franco-American relations appear to be thawing, following Paris’s refusal to support the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    President Nicolas Sarkozy insists that he is pro-American, supporting so-called Anglo-Saxon economic reforms and going on holiday to America.

    joeb
    Registered: 11/14/05
    Posts: 3,194

        03/26/08 at 11:31 AM
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    http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=6122559&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1
    joeb
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    Posts: 3,194

        04/06/08 at 04:38 PM
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    http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=6900


    April 6, 2008

    Oklahoma City Bombing: What the Mainstream News Left Out




    "Fortunately, it didn't, because the second device that they found, we understand, was even more powerful than the first..........." - Reported by KFOR




     

    April 19, 1995. Multiple bombs ripped through the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City. As usual, Federal fingerprints were all over this tragic event.

    President Bill Clinton, taking his orders from the New World Order chieftains, needed a crisis to get his plans for a socialized America and gun control agenda through. Taking a page out of history’s handbook, Bill Clinton knew that a crisis of this magnitude, including endless images of mangled children would pull on the heartstrings of Americans. They would beg for the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act (S.735) that he had failed to pass just a year before. The bill absolutely eviscerated massive sections of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    We have been investigating the Oklahoma City tragedy for over six years and the amount of evidence is staggering. Let’s just hit some of the key points:

    Oklahoma City’s NBC affiliate, KFOR, in a live broadcast immediately after the bombing, reported:

    “. . . devastation that that one explosion caused, because here is now what we are starting to learn about the succession, or what someone obviously hoped would be a succession of explosions. The first bomb that was in the Federal Building did go off. It did the damage that you see right there. The second explosive was found and defused. The third explosive that was found—and they are working on right now as we speak, I understand—both the second and third explosives—if you can imagine this—were larger than the first. So try to imagine two or threefold happening what we’ve already seen there. It is just incredible to think that there was that much heavy artillery that was somehow moved into the downtown Oklahoma City Federal Building.”

    A few minutes later, Oklahoma City CBS affiliate KWTV’s Jennifer Reynolds had the following to add:

    “We just saw, if you were watching, there was a white pickup truck backing a trailer into the scene. They are trying to move people out of the way so they can get it in. It appears to be the Oklahoma City bomb squad—their bomb disposal unit essentially is what it is—and it is what they would use if the report that we gave you just a few moments ago turns out to be correct, that they have found a second explosive device of some kind inside that building. They will back that trailer down there, and the bomb squad folks will go in and they will use that trailer. . . . This is how they would transport the explosive device away from this populated area to try to do something with it.”

    At the same time, CNN reported:

    “The Justice Department is reporting that a second explosive device has been found in the A.P. Murrah Building in downtown Oklahoma City. Mike, you’re still with us aren’t you?”
    [Mike Arnett, an attorney in downtown Oklahoma City, on phone with CNN] “Yes, and in addition to that, what we were told at the scene a few minutes ago was that in fact two different explosive devices were found in addition to the one that went off, for a total of three.”

    Another reporter for KWTV stated:

    “It has now been confirmed through federal authorities that a second bomb has been found inside that federal building in Oklahoma City. It was an explosion at 9:00 this morning that did that damage you’re look at right there—blowing off the entire north face of that building. Again, you’re looking at the north face. A second bomb was found on the east side of that building. A bomb squad is on the scene. That second bomb has not exploded. We don’t know quite the status yet—if they have managed to defuse it—but it has been confirmed that a second bomb has been found on the east side.”

    Oklahoma governor Frank Keating, on the telephone with reporters, said:

    “The report that I have is that one device was deactivated. Apparently there is another device, and obviously whatever did the damage to the Murrah Building was a tremendous, very sophisticated explosive device.”

    KFOR also reported:

    “President Clinton just called Governor Frank Keating. He says that three FBI anti-terrorist teams are en route to Oklahoma City right now. They are saying that this is the work of a sophisticated group. This is a very sophisticated device and it has to have been done by an explosives expert, obviously with this type of explosion.”

    A doctor on the street outside the carnage told reporters:

    “The medical teams downtown are unable to get into the wreckage to retrieve more of the injured because of the presence of other bombs in the area.”

    KWTV reported:

    “I just took a look down the street at the Murrah Building again. I see another bomb truck going, so apparently they are going to try to get out that third bomb that’s been talked about. Still a lot of activity around the Murrah Building . . . security concerns that another one could go off.”

    KFOR also reported:

    “Fortunately, it didn’t, because the second device that they found, we understand, was even more powerful than the first. They then found a third device. You can see the look on this woman’s face—the fear that she might have to go through the same thing again. They then found a third device, which was also larger than the first. Hard to feel lucky at this point, but certainly through some good work by some munitions experts and the explosive sniffing dogs, further tragedy has certainly been averted here.”

    Terrorism expert Dr. Randall Hearther had this to say:

    “It was a great stroke of luck that we have actually got defused bombs. It’s through the bomb material that we will be able to track down who committed this atrocity.”

    It would have been an incredible help to have been able get a hold of those unexploded bombs. Unfortunately the BATF agents, according to police and firefighter testimony, were inside removing them and spiriting them away, because they had to keep their story straight (that there was only one bomb, a truck bomb). Out of hundreds of people we interviewed, we couldn’t find a single person who said they’d only heard one explosion. One witness, Charles Williams, who worked in downtown Oklahoma City at the time of the bombing, said unequivocally that he felt two blasts very close together.

    It is historical fact, part of the public record, that there were multiple devices inside the Oklahoma City building and that there were at least two explosions. The emergency radio transmission transcripts show clearly that the police and firefighters witnessed the BATF removing unexploded devices.

    We also have the scientific evidence. The University of Oklahoma’s own seismographic reports, as well as the U.S. Geological Survey reports—two different scientific institutions—show multiple explosions. But for there to have been multiple explosions, Timothy McVeigh would have had to have accomplices . . . and that didn’t fit in with the federal story, especially if the reality showed that it had to be a group that had access to a federal building for long, extended periods of time, like the BATF and the FBI.

    General Benton K. Partin, former head of Air Force Weapons Development with thirty-plus years running the Air Force Weapons Development Program, has multiple engineering degrees. General Partin was amazed by press reports claiming that the building had been blown in and that a truck bomb could cause that damage, when even a basic understanding of explosive signatures shows that the building was blown not from the outside in, but from the inside out.

    Within days of the blast, General Partin was on the scene. He was, of course, barred access. Thankfully, from video as well as photographs of the columns, it was obvious to his trained eye that the columns had been blown off by shaped charges. In a detailed report, the former head of Air Force Weapons Development laid out the physics, the mathematics of this truth. In his report, he stated that it was a physical impossibility that a truck bomb—even made with military-grade explosives—could even begin to generate the explosive force that was brought against the Oklahoma City Federal Building.

    Now the seismographs come in. The seismographs first registered one distinct explosion, and then a group of explosions so close to each other that they could not be separated. You see, the Feds had to have a diversionary blast. They had to be able to tell the world that it was one lone nut—Timothy McVeigh—out front. They needed McVeigh’s truck bomb outside so that they could cover the fact that there were actually explosives inside the structure. If you look at the actual crater that the supposed truck bomb generated, it was so small that it could hardly be measured. However,in later media reports that explosion grew bigger and bigger and bigger (Newsweek, May 1, 1995).

    Another key piece of evidence that General Partin raised was that a single bomb explosion could not account for the failure of columns that were farther away at the back of the building compared to the non-failure of columns that were much closer to the supposed truck bomb blast. He concluded that the asymmetrical nature of the damage to the Murrah Building was one indication that shaped demolition charges were used in the bombing.

    In modern history, thousands of buildings of every type and design have been destroyed commercially to make way for new structures. But that didn’t matter to the BATF, the federal government, or the media. They turned structural engineering on its head, demanding and telling the world that a single truck bomb actually did this damage, even though the blast’s signature clearly showed that the building had been blown out, not in. Not only was the scientific and engineering world shocked with disbelief, but the general public wasn’t buying the story either. They had seen what had happened. Read this news report from Channel Four that aired live on the day of the tragedy:

    “Some of the floors have just crashed together. I mean, there are some points where you just literally can’t get in at all. And then from Chopper 4, at some particular points we could see all the way through the building. That’s the force of the explosion. It just blew out the walls and everything inside.”

    Outraged by the federal cover-up, leaders from across Oklahoma, led by State Representative Charles Key, banded together to write The Final Report—550 pages detailing this criminal federal operation.

    Now let’s look at the cowardice of the BATF agents. You see, they received a warning . . . but they didn’t pass it on to the children in the daycare center.

    On KFOR, the Oklahoma City NBC affiliate, a reporter speaks with eyewitnesses who were working inside the Federal building with agents of the BATF. Their faces were blacked out to protect their identities:

    Witness’ Employer Speaks: ‘What he told him is that he thought they had received a tip that morning of the bomb.’

    Reporter: Yet another witness, a rescue worker, says after she talked with an agent at the bombing scene she also suspected the ATF was warned and agents stayed away from their office.

    Witness: ‘I asked him if his office was in the building, and he said yes. And I asked if there were any ATF agents still in the building and he said, “No we weren’t here.”

    Reporter: Witness #1 approached an ATF agent nearby. He claims he asked the agent what had happened and Witness #1 said this is what the agent told him:

    Witness: ‘He started getting a little bit nervous. He tried reaching someone on a two-way radio. Couldn’t get anybody. I told him I wanted an answer right then. He said they were in the briefing. None of the agents had been in there. They had been tipped by their pagers not to come into work that day. Plain as day out of his mouth—they were tipped. Why wasn’t anybody else? There was a lot of people, good people, died down there, and if they knew, they should have let everybody else know.’”

    Oklahoma City paramedic Tiffany Bible, who heroically responded with her unit just minutes after the blast on April 19, 1995, swore in an affidavit that when she arrived the BATF was in full mock gear. Bomb gear takes at least thirty minutes to put on. When she asked them, “Oh my goodness, were you guys hurt inside the blast?” they said, “No, we got tipped off by our pagers not to come in today.”

    Linda Cavanaugh, a reporter for KFOR News, reported:

    “Were agents forewarned about a bomb in Oklahoma City? Did they know the Murrah Building was a target? The ATF says no, absolutely not. But tonight in a story you will see only on the NewsChannel, you are about hear otherwise from people who were at the Murrah Building that morning.

    Woman Speaks: ‘We’re asking simple questions and we can’t get any answers, so it makes us that much more curious, you know. Where the hell were they?’

    Linda Cavanaugh: The NewsChannel did ask for a private meeting with ATF officials to discuss the credibility of these witness reports, but the ATF refused saying they had no more to say on the subject.”

    Spin doctors say Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, and so did Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City. And we’re told to believe it,but hundreds of eyewitnesses reported seeing Middle Eastern men crawling all over this operation. Let’s look at John Doe #2.

    KFOR Interview:

    “As I sat there, I seen that McVeigh was with another person.”

    Interviewer: “Do you have any doubt in your mind that there was a passenger in the Ryder truck?”
    Witness: “Even more, I have no doubt there was. There was definitely a second person, no matter what. There was two people in this vehicle.”

    Representative Charles Key stated: “John Doe #2—there was a $2 million price put on his head. And now they are saying there was no John Doe #2.”

    KFOR showed surveillance video of a man running away from the Ryder truck and reported the following:

    “Our witnesses picked out a photo line-up. The NewsChannel shared the information and surveillance tapes of this man with FBI. They have had some of that material long before our reports went on the air.

    Witness: ‘I was standing in the building and I looked out the window and seen the Ryder truck and I seen a man get out the Ryder truck.’

    Reporter: She was just ten feet away from the man depicted in this sketch when he stepped out of the Ryder truck.

    Witness: ‘He was olive complexion and he was . . . he had black curly hair. He was wearing a baseball cap but his curls were sticking out of his hat. It was short in the back but you could still the curls in his hair. He was not American. He was foreign. You can tell by his skin, his face, the way his face was.’

    Reporter:

    We asked FBI spokesman Dan Vogel, ‘Is John Doe #2 still part of the investigation? Does he exist?’ The answer: ‘Yes, we are still trying to locate and identify John Doe #2.’ The man in our reports is Iraqi. Today the FBI says they ‘are not pursing a Middle Eastern connection. This doesn’t mean it has been ruled out. That could change tomorrow.’”

    State, local, and federal police around the country actually detained dozens of Middle Eastern men trying to exit the country, many of whom were former Iraqi Republican Guard officers like Al-Hussaini Hussain, who worked at the Boston airport. Despite all this evidence, the Clinton Justice Department said to release them, that they did not want to talk to them, and that there was no Middle Eastern connection.

    In the making of this book, our team has interviewed scores of former and current FBI agents, police officers, and detectives who were on the scene and worked the case. They confirmed that they detained members of the Iraqi Republic Guard who were trying to flee the United States. They would search their bags and find blue jogging suits and bomb making materials. They would try to hold them, try to charge them. According to my sources, they could have convicted these men in front of a jury. Still Bill Clinton demanded their release.

    Later I interviewed David Schippers, the man that impeached Bill Clinton, the man that brought down the mob in Chicago. Mr. Schippers stated that the Oklahoma City bombing team was made up of the same people involved in the World Trade Center attack on September 11. The grand plan of the Feds begins to unfold.

    The evidence shows that the Iraqis were brought to the United States after the Gulf War, that they had previously been trained in the 1980’s for the war with Iran, and that they are now working for the shadow government, i.e. the national security dictatorship. So when the Feds need a crisis to distract the public we all better look out.

    Local television stations raised the obvious question: If McVeigh acted alone, why was the Federal Government refusing steadfastly to release the surveillance tapes?

    KFOR’s Kevin Ogle reported:

    “The details are chilling. We’ll also focus on surveillance cameras —cameras that caught the bombing on tape . . . and maybe the men behind the bombing. The NewsChannel has new information tonight that there’s a chance that surveillance tapes could be the smoking gun evidence. We asked candid questions in a rare face-to-face meeting with ATF officials close to the investigation. We learned that video collected from downtown businesses the morning of April 19 may someday be played before a jury. Officials won’t say who or what exactly is on the tape. However, numerous sources have confirmed the tapes exist and that they reveal more than one bomber.”

    Jayna Davis, another reporter for KFOR, reported:

    “This is a question we have all been asking. We’ve been asking that question since we first broke the story that surveillance cameras aimed at the Federal Building could have captured all those involved on tape. Sources have confirmed those tapes exist, and that they show more than one bomber. The FBI also confirmed those tapes exist when they refused to release them, claiming the video is part of a criminal investigation. Now for the first time, we get an on-the-record response from the head of the Dallas office, ATF. We learned that video could be unveiled as part of the prosecution’s case. No officials will discuss specifically what is on the video, but we have been able to recreate some of what may have been captured by downtown surveillance cameras through the eyes of the witnesses. You are looking at a computer recreation of the final movements of the Ryder truck according to the people who crossed its path at 5th and Harvey moments before the explosion. Tonight at 10:00 the witnesses will detail their memories of how they believe the suspects carried out the crime and made their getaway. All these accounts share a common and unsettling similarity. The witnesses say they saw several accomplices, including the infamous John Doe Number 2. ATF officials tell us the elusive John Doe is still part of this case, but will not comment any further. However, they did tell us there is a lot about this case we don’t know yet—information you can’t find in the indictment against Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier.”



    Another report on KFOR said this:

    Kelly Ogle: “It was just hours after the bombing when the NewsChannel first told you about the possibility that surveillance cameras may have captured the explosion—and the killers—on tape. Our sources and sources for the LA Times describe what is actually on those tapes. The information shows some huge surprises. The biggest: that it may have been John Doe Number 2, not Timothy McVeigh, who detonated the bomb. Brad Edwards has the latest in this exclusive NewsChannel report.
    Brad Edwards: “Our new information comes directly from a source that has seen parts of those surveillance tapes. It also comes from reports now in the Los Angeles Times. But perhaps the biggest surprise is contained in the NewsChannel’s own information. Timothy McVeigh was not the last person to leave the Ryder truck. In fact, another person sat inside the cab of the truck after McVeigh got out. We believe that man is John Doe Number 2, a man who, for all we know, is still on the loose, leaving open a vital question: Was it John Doe Number 2 who actually set off the bomb, not Timothy McVeigh as we’ve all been led to believe? NewsChannel 4 has for weeks been demanding copies of the surveillance tapes from the FBI. The federal government so far is dragging its feet, but many people in the investigation have seen the tapes, and now so has a source willing to describe to the NewsChannel what the tapes show. The LA Times report shows there was a surveillance camera near the corner of 5th and Harvey, and another near the corner of 5th and Robinson. Federal investigators recreated the time sequence leading up to the bombing by matching the video and still photos from the surveillance cameras. Since we can’t show you the tapes ourselves, we’re reenacting what our source says he saw on those tapes. As witnesses told the NewsChannel before, the tapes show the Ryder truck parked in front of the Murrah Building where we now know the blast went off. As witnesses also told us, the tapes showed two men sitting inside the Ryder truck. A man strongly resembling Timothy McVeigh gets out of the driver’s side, steps down. He then appears to have dropped something on the step up into the truck. He bends down and appears to pick something up off the step. Then, he turns and walks directly across 5th Street through the Journal Record building. All this time, John Doe Number 2 is still inside the Ryder truck sitting on the passenger side. Time passes. The surveillance tape is time-lapsed photography. Without knowing exactly the time interval between shots our source can’t be sure how long John Doe Number 2 sat in that cab. What was he doing all of that time? Then the tape shows John Doe Number 2 getting out of the passenger side of the Ryder truck. Again, the tape shows that a bombing witness accurately described what happened next to NewsChannel 4: ‘I was standing in the building and I looked out the window and I seen the Ryder truck and I seen a man get in the Ryder truck.’ The tape shows John Doe Number 2 getting out, shutting the passenger side door. He steps toward the front of the truck and is momentarily out of the frame of the surveillance camera. But shortly he appears back in frame walking toward the rear of the truck, still on the sidewalk in front of the Murrah Building. Again he turns east toward the front of the truck, looking toward the street. John Doe Number 2 then walks diagonally across 5th Street toward the east, as if heading toward the YMCA or the intersection of 5th and Robinson. He again leaves the frame of the camera. Another camera shooting from another angle clearly shows the actual explosion that destroyed the Federal Building and killed 169 people. So what does the mysterious John Doe Number 2 look like in the tapes? The man who stayed inside the Ryder truck, possibly triggering the bomb? His features are obscured by a baseball cap on the portion of tape seen by our source, the same kind of cap shown on the composite drawing first released of John Doe Number 2. The cap was a sports cap, flame style. The man himself was taller than the man resembling McVeigh, and much thicker in build. He appears to have a dark or olive complexion. Our source saw only a few minutes of tape. He didn’t see all of the almost twenty minutes of surveillance tapes that reportedly were distributed to FBI agents around the country to help in their investigation. But they do show enough to raise some crucial questions: Who actually set off the bomb? What was John Doe Number 2 doing in the cab of the truck after the McVeigh lookalike got out? And, how did John Doe Number 2 get away from the Murrah Building? [Rep. Charles Key says] ‘My understanding is there was a video of McVeigh getting out of the Ryder truck, jumping into this other pickup with John Doe Number 2. Where is that video? Are we ever going to get to see it?’

    Do you realize what you have just read? The government had multiple surveillance camera tapes. In fact, it finally came out in court (when the federal government declared in 2001 that they wouldn’t release the videotapes because of national security implications) that there were actually twelve surveillance cameras tapes showing different Islamic individuals, Arabic men in company with McVeigh and others. The cameras also show the BATF agents hiding out right down the street, preparing to pounce on the operation and declare themselves the heroes, the saviors, and the victims. Think about it. In 2001 and into 2002, the federal government has claimed national security and refused to release twelve-plus surveillance camera tapes. What have they been hiding?

    The Feds never tried to use these tapes in court. If the tapes showed Timothy McVeigh pulling up alone and bombing the building, and if it were just a truck bomb, why not use these tapes to prove McVeigh’s guilt as the sole perpetrator? Why didn’t they use the tapes? What’s on them? After you have seen all this evidence, it is clear: federal involvement. They are ratcheting up the police state right here in America, and they are using manufactured terrorist events to get the job done.

    According to an article run on January 19, 2002 in WorldNetDaily entitled “Was FBI early arrival in Oklahoma City? —Hotel receipt shows top terror man showed up 9 hours before blast,” Danny Culson, the FBI’s top counter-terrorism agent, checked into an Oklahoma City hotel nine hours before multiple blasts tore through the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Embassy Suites Hotel receipt for Danny Culson, the director of the FBI’s Terrorist Task Force and founding commander of the Bureau’s Hostage Team, was dated April 19, 1995, with a check-in time of 0020. That’s military time for 12:20 a.m.—almost nine hours before the blast. But Chief Agent Culson lied to the America. He told a Time magazine reporter in 1999 the harrowing tale of how he sped at over a hundred miles an hour from his home in Dallas to get there after the bombing to save people and conduct an investigation. Coincidentally, the FBI won’t release any of the credit card statements and records for any of their agents. What are they trying to hide?


    “The system wasn’t working. Going through the system didn’t work. I did everything they advised me to do. It didn’t do any good.”
    —Hoppy Heidelberg, dismissed grand juror

    Hoppy Heidelberg was an upstanding member of the community with no criminal record. He had been a grand juror for years, but when he started asking questions about the Middle Eastern connection, FBI prior knowledge, and BATF involvement, the FBI had the bravado to come to his house brandishing firearms and to tell him to shut his mouth if he knew what was good for him. When he refused to be part of the cover-up and demanded that he be able to call witnesses as was his right as a grand juror, the judge kicked him off the case.

    In another bizarre twist, Martin Keating, Governor Frank Keating’s brother, wrote a novel entitled The Final Jihad. In the book, a Tom McVeigh masterminds the bombing of an Oklahoma City Federal building. Keating’s brother dedicated the book to the Knights of the Secret Circle, a term used by members of the Illuminati when they talk about their organization. Martin Keating wrote the book two years before the bombing.

    KFOR’s Linda Cavanaugh made this report, which pertains to this novel:

    “The NewsChannel has learned of another strange development. Apparently, before the bombing, Governor Frank Keating’s brother, Martin, had been working on a novel about terrorist bombing in Oklahoma City. Stranger still, one of the characters in the novel was named Thomas McVeigh.

            Excerpt from 9/11: The Road to Tyranny by Alex Jones
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    For American Muslims since 9/11, few acts could be considered more ill-advised or foolishly provocative than enrolling in flight school to get your pilot's license.

    Which is why Monem Salam had to do it.Well, proving a point wasn't the sole reason. Salam has dreamed of being a pilot since he was a boy in Pakistan. He was drawn to Bellingham Airport by the same force as everyone in his beginner's class. He wanted to touch the sky.

    It's just that the others didn't have everyone they knew telling them they were nuts.

    "I heard it over and over, from all the Muslims I spoke to," Salam said recently from his Bellingham office, shortly after his noon prayer.

    "They'd say: 'Are you crazy, Monem? Are you trying to make trouble for yourself?' "

    Behind the doubts loomed 9/11. A sense that life for American Muslims fundamentally changed that day. Why poke that bee's nest of suspicion? Why not lay low?

    "And yet every non-Muslim I spoke to urged me to go for it, to follow my dream," he said. "It made me wonder: Are we Muslims afraid of something that is not really there?"

    So Salam, a 35-year-old adviser for an Islamic mutual fund, went to the airport to ask around about pilot training. Then he enrolled in a flight school, Bellingham Aero.

    The next day, the FBI showed up, asking questions about him. He was the school's first student ever to attract the scrutiny of the FBI. Even though he has been a U.S. citizen since 1986.

    "My Muslim friends were all saying 'See?' " Salam says. "They said it was inevitable I'd end up on a watch list."

    Maybe someone at the airport got suspicious and decided better safe than sorry. Salam doesn't know. It happens, often enough that when he's in airports as a passenger, he'll hide behind a ticket counter or a flight info board to bow down in prayer to Allah.

    It's all part of Flying While Muslim.

    But this story, Salam says, "is not about victimization." This time, a funny thing happened on the way to our usual pigeonholes. We stopped ourselves.

    The good folks at Bellingham Aero soothed the FBI and encouraged Salam. Though one non-Muslim friend admitted his gut reaction to Salam's pilot lessons was "He's a terrorist," Salam resisted the lure of paranoia.

    Last summer, he earned that pilot's license. He adheres to Sharia — Islamic religious law — so he couldn't celebrate with a drink. He jumped up and down, hooting and hollering. Later he flew, heart soaring, out over the San Juans.

    All this is captured in a new film, "On a Wing and a Prayer: An American Muslim Learns to Fly." It will air on KCTS Channel 9 in Seattle, at 10 p.m. May 20.

    Salam says mostly what you hear about Muslims are stories of righteous anger. And what you hear about America and Muslims are stories of distrust.

    "My story is that anybody in America, including Muslims, who has a dream can go out and fulfill it," he said. "There are obstacles but you can't assume this country is against you. If you do, it becomes self-fulfilling."

    I don't know if that's headline news. But it ought to be.

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    Corrupted probe continues to reverberate

    Posted: April 11, 2008
    1:00 am Eastern

    © 2008 

    Lurking behind the massive cancellation of flights this week due to faulty wiring is the explosion of TWA Flight 800 off New York's Long Island in July 1996 that killed all 230 people on board.

    Although the plane in question was a Boeing 747, not an MD-80, the disaster, as the AP and other news sources have faithfully reported, "was blamed on fuel vapors ignited by wiring."

    USA Today, in fact, quotes Bernard Loeb, the National Transportation Safety Board honcho, as saying that fuel tank issues are "very serious matters."

    Loeb should know. As head of the TWA Flight 800 investigation, he did everything in his power to show how one could blow.

    In fact, however, in its effort to avoid the obvious missile strike, the NTSB never got beyond rank speculation as to the cause of the TWA Flight 800 disaster.

    To make the "fuel vapors ignited by wiring" theory work, the NTSB needed to establish at least two critical points.

    The first was that the fuel-air mixture in the center wing tank was sufficiently volatile that the least spark could set it off. The second was that the aircraft was capable of spontaneously generating that spark.

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    The theoretical spark itself would require two separate causes of its own – a break in the insulation of the wiring and a breakdown in the system that limits the strength of the current through those wires.

    All these conditions were fully necessary to validate any mechanical theory for TWA Flight 800's destruction.

    As the investigation evolved, NTSB officials steered their efforts to the realm of what scientists call the "unfalsifiable," the realm where theories can neither be proved nor disproved.

    In early November 1996, Loeb told CBS's Ed Bradley that static electricity from a faulty Wiggins coupler most likely triggered the explosion. Loeb neglected to add that there was no evidence that any Wiggins coupler was faulty.

    The FBI's James Kallstrom was reportedly furious at this indiscretion, but NTSB Chairman Jim Hall reassured Kallstrom that the NTSB "has more leeway to speculate because we're not bound by criminal legal standards."

    With or without the Wiggins coupler, static electricity stood as Loeb's "pet theory."

    It remained so, as AP reporter Patricia Milton noted, until "scientists at Wright Patterson laboratories had proved unable to produce a single scenario under which static electricity could have caused a significant spark."

    After many fruitless experiments by outside labs, the NTSB contracted with Combustion Dynamics "to evaluate the consistency between the computer calculations of the full-scale CWT [center wing tank] combustion model and other information and evidence obtained during the investigation."

    The NTSB had hoped "that by conducting this evaluation ... it would be possible to narrow the number of probable ignition location(s) within the CWT."

    This hope was in vain. The NTSB had to concede defeat yet again: "Therefore, the rules-based analysis did not provide a definitive determination regarding the probability that any given location within the CWT was the ignition location."

    With all of its investigative hypotheses reduced to rubble, the NTSB chose to reconstruct the results itself in a way more to its liking:

    "Finally, analysis of the results of computer modeling of combustion in a full-scale CWT under conditions simulating those of TWA Flight 800 indicated that a localized ignition of the flammable vapor could have generated pressure levels that, based upon failure analysis, would cause the damages observed in the wreckage of the accident airplane's CWT."

    Note all the "coulds" and "woulds." No outside scientific agency or person had made such a statement. In fact, all contracted testing and analysis ran counter to the NTSB speculation.

    Even Patricia Milton, whose book on the crash – "In the Blink of An Eye" – read like an FBI defense brief, had to acknowledge that the CWT pieces retrieved and studied in one simulated explosion after another "bore no resemblance to those of Flight 800."

    She consoled herself, however, with the thought that the government was at least "proving negatives."

    By the year 2000, the NTSB had exhausted just about all possible scientific testing that might have reinforced its wiring and fuel vapor scenarios.

    The scientific community had too much integrity to validate desperate theories either about fuel volatility or ignition sources. Accordingly, the NTSB ceased scientific inquiry along these lines.

    From that point forward the board descended from modern science to old-fashioned alchemy and summed it all up in a fable worthy of Harry Potter, titled "Factors Suggesting the Likelihood that a Short-Circuit Event Occurred on TWA Flight 800."

    In this report, aimless speculation goes on and on and on to the point of absurdity, considering the NTSB's acknowledgement that the computer modeling done by the two research laboratories – Sandia National Laboratory and Christian Michelsen Research – had failed.

    "The results of that modeling could not be used to determine the most likely ignition location," said the report.

    The NTSB officials, in fact, knew the whole exercise was a failure. At the final NTSB hearing, an honest staffer, Joseph Kolly, came to the following reluctant conclusion:

    "The search for the probable ignition location was pushed to the limits of current technology. An accounting of the scientific uncertainties was meticulously maintained throughout the entire experimental, computational, and analytic processes.

    "In the end, the uncertainties were too great to permit the identification of the probable location of ignition."

    No, Joseph, the uncertainties were not too great at all. The ignition source was a missile. Mr. Loeb just did not let you in on it.

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    2nd 'Liberty City 7' Jury Says It Can't Reach Verdicts

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    Published: April 12, 2008

    FORT LAUDERDALE - A jury considering charges against six South Florida men accused of plotting to blow up the Chicago Sears Tower and the Miami FBI headquarters reported Friday it has been unable to reach verdicts for any of the defendants.

    U.S. District Judge Joan Lenard instructed the jury of seven men and five women to continue trying to reach agreement. News that the panel is at an impasse after 10 days of deliberations, however, raises the possibility that the high-profile case could be poised for a second mistrial.

    The defendants, struggling construction workers who hung out in a Liberty City warehouse, are charged with conspiring to support terrorism, to destroy buildings and to wage war on the United States. If convicted of all counts, the men face up to 70 years in prison.

    An earlier trial in the so-called "Liberty City 7" case ended in a mistrial Dec. 13 after jurors agreed to acquit one man but could not reach verdicts for the other six.

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    April 13, 2008 at 20:30:03

    The mission to crack the 911 case gains traction

    by Michael McCoy

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    After shouting from the rooftops for months, regularly aggrevating friends and acquaintences and pestering outright strangers standing in line at the grocery store about the travesty of the 911 attacks, I am relieved to see that the movement to get to the truth is gaining legitimate traction. A sober examination of the events of 911 by a growing number of once-duped Americans is well under way, bolstered by an impressive collection of professionals in a wide variety of fields. For good reason, the taboo once attached to questioning your government is fading, and the deliberate, insidious lies and procedures that cloaked the facts about the horrible attacks - and later lured the American public and Congress to support the Iraq catastrophe - shows the practical results of what persons of highest power - engaged in the worst kind of group-think - with previously unimaginable motives and without conscience are capable of.

    Even as skillfull and determined as the detractors have been, with the presumed legitimacy of a federal government as their chief sponsor, the collective lightbulb is beginning to glow brightly about the official obfuscation of the truth, the motives behind - and the actual results of the 911 attacks. Any five significant elements of the largest crime and mass murder in US history simply doesn't pass the smell test of the average eigth grader. And taken in tandem, the excuses/apologies leading to the massive failures in predicting and preventing the attacks - along with the 'offical story' quickly presented to the public in the aftermath - would cause a second-rate, drunken defense attorney in an actual trial to laugh hysterically at the presiding judge. Not one shred of the 911 Commission's final report was subjected to the most basic of evidentiary scrutiny or verification. And each and every fact from an immense collection of contradictory evidence had to be carefully and deliberately ignored in order to prop up the official version. The report is, in it's very essense, a carefully woven fairy tale created while navigating a minefield of political agendas. None of them, as is now obvious, were honorable.

    The first public announcement from the newly formed 911 Investigative Commission was, "... we're not out to blame anyone..."
    George Bush vigorously and repeatedly blocked the formation of any investigation into the attacks of 911. He succeeded for over fourteen months until pressure from the 911 victim's families and the general public caused him to relent. And the political wrangling that made the investigation of the Iran/Contra debacle look like a grade school prank was on. Simply stated, the 911 Commission was formed as a body determined from the start to support the 'official version' of the events on 911, to the exclusion of volumes of contradictory evidence - and myriad documents and witness testimony to the contrary. A grand apology, for a grand and extraordinary sequence of utter failures of the political, intelligence and military apparatus of the United States. Yet a complete list of the nineteen alleged suicide hijackers, their photos and connections to al Quaeda and bin Laden was being broadcasted by the mainstream bullhorn across the United States within hours - even though no Arab names were found on any passenger list of the hijacked flights. Lo and behold, America's new enemy is quickly indentified and located.

    I bought it, and so did you - admit it. I admit that I didn't have the courage to question, to doubt, to look closely. Few did at the time.

    Immediately following the attacks, we Americans had an enemy to replace the former Soviet Union - this time, a worldwide scourge to confront. Military spending and activity could be restored - even incresed - with new and wonderful weapons systems and places to use them. With public cohesion restored, we could all surrender a few of our constitutional rights, just a few at first, to insure that our protectors, with wonderful new powers, could weed out the evil residing among us - and abroad. And the US could begin the long-sought return to the world's center stage with an attack in Afghanistan, the home base of the accused, and remarkably, a long-recognized area of US strategic concern. Then, with a solid foothold in, and access to the Caspian Basin's massive oil reserves secured, a campaign of fear and revenge would soon turn toward Iraq, yet another US strategic concern. After all, Weapons of Mass Destruction are a serious matter to fear and a connection between Iraq and al Qaeda called for revenge... I mean justice, of course.. Wait - was it Saddam bin Laden or Osama Hussein? No matter - in the end, a mix of fear and revenge is a winning combination for public cohesion, right? In fact, with only cursory review, each known, main objective of the members of The Project for a New American Century was miraculously being realized. Some of the members may be familiar - to include Bolton, Feith, Jeb Bush, Libby, Perle, Armitage, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and of course, Cheney. What a silver lining hath a terrible attack such as 911.

    A bit of groundwork. A few crucial facts too long overlooked, seldom connected, that cannot be disputed:

    The World Trade Center Towers, were in fact, a growing economic disaster widely recognized by inner circles since shortly after their completion in the early 70's. The substantial construction flaws came to be a major embarrassment and the required repairs/rennovations for these immense structures over the years for safety and infrastructure purposes - including hundreds of millions in costs for upcoming, legally required asbestos removal - was daunting. Ignoring these fundmental, mounting economic realities may result in missing the reasons that the Trade Center Towers were 'terrorists targets' - twice within eight years. President Bush's younger brother Marvin was a member of the board of directors of the company that furnished security for the World Trade Center Complex. His company also provided security for Logan International Airport, (departure point for Flights 175 and 11, both of which stuck the WTC towers), and Dulles International Airport, (departure point for Flight 77 that struck the Pentagon). His company's contract was scheduled to expire on September 11, 2001. Numerous long-term, World Trade Center Tower employees described regular, highly unusual, and unexplained construction sounds eminating from distant floors of the buildings, months and weeks before the attacks. The North Tower experienced an announced, yet unprecedented power disruption, ostensibly for improvements and renovation during most of the weekend before 911. Entire security systems were rendered non-funtional and a number of witnesses reported a litany of unusual activity by groups of mysterious people, sometimes with large equipment that required wheels to move, often during the night. No video cameras worked. On 911, each of the WTC towers was struck at a floor containing a major, highly secure computer center - having received recent, significant upgrades and repairs.

    World Trade Center 7, also known as the Solomon Brothers Building, collapsed at 5:20 PM later in the day of the attacks as a resilt of scattered fires fueled by emergency tanks of diesel fuel. The building was struck by flying debris from the earlier collapse of WTC1. Each of the fifty-eight structural steel columns around the perimeter of the fourty-seven story building, and the twenty-five internal core columns failed simultaneously resulting in a global collaspe allowing the building to largely fall into it's basement and footprint. Once again, and to be clear - eighty-three vertical, steel columns throughout the building's superstructure, including the columns at each of the four corners of the building completely failed at the same moment.

    The 911 Commission stated flatly that it could not determine the cause of the collapse of WTC-7.

    A stunning array of warnings eminated from no less than eleven foreign intelligence agencies including France, Germany, the UK, Italy, and Russia in the months and weeks before the 911 attacks. Some that were especially specific and warning of hijackings of commercial jets to be used as missles against US targets. The chief counter-terrorism expert under four presidents had been removed from the president's inner circle months before by the National Security Advisor to the President, Condoleezza Rice. His daily, documented warnings about "an intelligence warning system blinking red" went ignored. He was repeatedly denied an audience with the president. Daily Presidential Briefs, (daily updated assessments of the most important national security threats), including one titled "bin Laden determined to strike inside the United States", were also being ignored. At least two separate FBI investigations of young, hostile Arab men training at flight schools were halted by their supervisors. Various mid-level FBI managers instructed entire teams of translators of intelligence documents to allow the system to back up, ostensibly in order to acquire additional funding. A number of crucial documents were found to have been included in this backlog that clearly indicted an impending, unprecedented attack on US soil. Several supervisors of the Middle east section of the FBI later admitted to suffering from "warnings fatigue". The chief hijacker, Mohammad Atta, received $100,000 in funding for the 911 operation weeks before the attacks from a Pakistani Intelligence Chief who was having breakfast with two high ranking US intelligence officials on Capital Hill - at the moment that the airliners struck the Trade Center Towers in New York. Several of the hijackers implicated in the attacks by the FBI had prior associations with various federal agencies and officials. Five Israeli intelligence officers that videotaped the 911 attacks in New York from across the Hudson River were arrested, questioned and released by the FBI. Three of these agents were later interviewed on a Dutch television program and they each admitted to having been sent - days before - to document the event. In the months before the attacks, George Bush personally intervened, and instructed the FBI to "back off" their ongoing investigations into the bin Laden family.

    Vice-president Richard Cheney, four months prior to the 911 attacks, was granted complete command and control of the entire air defense system in the United States, an unprecedented deligation of presidential authority in US history. The week-long practice drills being held that day were originally scheduled to begin on October 10th, 2001. They were resceduled to begin September 10th, 2001. One of the drills that day required a wide assortment of "false blips" - indiscernable to actual aircraft - to be inserted into the entire Federal Aviation Administration's network of radar screens. These drills also required the bulk of northeastern US air defensive interceptor jets to be dispatched to far flung areas, leaving the Washington and New York areas undefended - the most sensitive airspace on the planet including the nation's capital and the central command for all US military forces. When the attacks began, with President Bush in Florida, Richard Cheney was the acting Commander in Chief of the United States and was in complete control from the White House bunker.

    No interceptor jets were dispatched until the last of the four airliners had crashed, and no jets from Andrews Air Force base - only 10 miles from DC - were employed. Well known, is that no response could be mounted.

    American Airlines Flight 77 reversed it's course, traveled east for well over forty minutes, (after it was known to be a hijacking), covering over 300 miles and the large, lumbering passenger jet managed to evade separate, highly sophisticated military radar and executed a remarkable near circling of the Pentagon before impact. The Pentagon's multi-tiered missle system did not function. Donald Rumsfeld admitted on September 10, 2001 that nearly $2.3 trillion in Pentagon spending could not be accounted for. Flight 77 struck the area of the Pentagon that housed the accounting offices. The unexplained $2.3 trillion losses have not been mentioned by the main stream media, nor by any military or political official in a public venue since. Three separate video tapes from fixed security cameras, two civilian and one belonging to the State of Virginia, were seized by the FBI within minutes of the impact and explosion at the Pentagon and have been classified. Countless FOIA requests for their release have been ignored.

    Neither American Airlines Flight 11 nor United Airlines Flight 175 were scheduled to fly on September 11, 2001.

    None of the official pilots of the four hijacked airliners held a license to fly their assigned aircraft.

    A United Airlines Flight 93 was recorded into the FAA registry as landing in Cleveland and departing it's passengers - after a separate Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania.

    Between testifying before Senate Commitees and the 911 Commission, NORAD, Pentagon and FAA officials offered no less than three contradictory accounts over the course of a year to explain their failures. Several Commission members sought criminal charges for perjury but were stopped. No reason was offered. The National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice, testified under oath that "... no one could have foreseen hijacked airliners being used as missles to fly into buildings..." George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld also made this assertion repeatedly, in direct contradiction to a variety of recognized and well practiced scenerios by NORAD, the NRO and the CIA since 1998, as is a matter of record. Among these contingencies, the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were considered to be prime targets. Sibel Edmunds, a translator working for the FBI, testified for three and a half hours about numerous flaws in the procedural failures regarding actionable intelligence and significant 911 cover up operations at the FBI. She was served with a gag order and her entire testimony was ignored in the final report. The Commission officially requested over 11,000 documents from the White House. They actually received about 2,700 - many reacted and with censored text. FAA Chief Norman Mineta testified that he witnessed Vice President Cheney receiving rapid warnings from a 'young man' when an airliner heading for DC was 50 miles out, 30 miles out, 10 miles out when he asked the Vice President: "... does the order still stand?" The Vice President replied: "Yes, have you heard anything to the contrary?" Flight 77 struck the Pentagon within four minutes. The 'young man' and the order that he referred to - including Mr Mineta's entire testimony - is ignored in the final report. George Bush and Dick Cheney testify only together, no oath is sworn by either and no record of the conversation is allowed. An FAA manager deliberately destroyed, (and scattered), the logs of the false radar blips and other details that were a record of the war drills on the morning of 911, (commiting federal crime in doing so), yet he was never interviewed nor mentioned by the 911 Commission. He later received a promotion. A twenty-eight page document prepared by a former prosecutor about Saudi government connections and material support for two of the futiure hijackers residing in San Diego California was ignored by the Commission.

    The 911 Commission was directed by Philip Zelikow, who co-authored a book with Condolezza Rice and headed the transition team when George Bush assumed the presidency in January of 2001. Mr Zelikow had complete control over the final 911 report and it's contents and admitted that he "had numerous conversations with several members of the White House staff, inclucing the President's chief advisor Karl Rove" during the Commission's investigation. The 911 Commission's initial budget: $3 million, later increased reluctantly to $15 million due to pressure from the victim's families. The Ken Starr investigation of Bill and Hillary Clinton resulting in a charge of lying under oath regarding consensual sex that lead to adultry: $50 million. The investigation of the loss of the space shuttle Columbia: $50 million.

    The 911 Commission, in it's final report, determined that the source of the financing of the 911 terror attacks on the United States - speaking directly to the motive, "... is ultimately of little consequence..."

    The 911 Commission concludes in it's report that key FAA personnel were "hopeless bunglers deserving prosecution for criminal neglegence" and goes on to claim that they cannot find any particular person deserving of blame for the disaster. The commission praises the FAA for landing thousands of airliners across the United States when it was ordered to do so, a task unprecedented in aviation history - yet the agency failed miserably in contacting the military about an errant aircraft - a task that it preforms regularly. The Commission further claims that the military must rely solely on the FAA for radar services, blatantly ignoring the independent military radar that dwarfs the civilian radar network - both in scope and sophistication. In the nine months preceeding 911, the FAA had contacted the military - and NORAD had intercepted errant aircraft 67 times. Average time to intercept: 16 minutes. In the previous year, there had been over 120 such events, all with comparable intercept times.

    A brief recap:

    The collapse of the World Trade Center Towers was an unexpected and immense benefit to a group of insiders, and they were not Muslim fanatics.

    The members of The Project for a New American Century suddenly realized previously unimagined public support for their agenda, both in the US and on the world stage.

    The entire military complex of the United States would would be substantially expanded. Afghanistan and Iraq would be attcaked and invaded.

    The critical causes of the failure to respond to the 911 attacks by the US military were complied only on their third attempt to do so - and the members of the 911 Commission knew it.

    These repeated contradictions of substance by various officials of the Pentagon and NORAD prior to the final report's release were not mentioned by the Commission.

    Vice president Dick Cheney was at the epicenter of Command and Control, yet he was allowed to brief the Commission with George Bush at his side, neither were sworn under oath and no record was allowed. Notes taken by Commission members were collected by the Secret Service at the briefing's conclusion.

    Vice president Dick Cheney's claims and actions on 911 are sharply contradicted by FAA Chief Norman Mineta's critical, sworn testimony, which is ignored by the Commission.

    Sibel Edmund's detailed, scathing and verified indictment of deliberate, repeated FBI supression of crucial evidence is ignored by the Commission.

    The FBI supervisors that halted investigations into suspicious, hostile Arab men that became hijackers were ignored by the Commission.

    The previous associations of several of the hijackers with federal officials and agencies were ignored by the Commission.

    The FBI supervisors that suppressed internal agency cover ups of crucial agency failures and that slowed the translation of key intelligence documants were ignored by the Commission.



    $100,000 wired to the lead hijacker by Pakistan's Intelligence Chief weeks before the attacks - the same man meeting with high level US intelligence officials on the morning of 911 - was ignored by the Commission.

    The independent, military radar network that dwarfs that of the FAA, and the ramifications regarding the failures to respond to the attacks, is ignored by the Commission.

    An FAA supervisor destroyed critiical evidence at the heart of the failures, a federal crime.

    The funding for the operation resulting in the 911 attacks on the US was deemed unimportant by the Commission.

    Regarding the largest, most far reaching crime and mass murder in US history - do you hear the second-rate, drunken defense attorney laughing hysterically now?

    Let's assume that our federal government - nor any of it's myriad agencies at the forefront before, during and after the attacks had anything to hide. After all, why would any official in any agency, or any politician, wish to foster doubt? And what possible element of the evidence could be deemed classified - and for what reason? Four hijacked airliners were crashed, three into landmark buildings and one into an open field in Pennsylvania..

    Why would any official at the FBI, the CIA, the FAA, NORAD, the Pentagon, or Conoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, George Bush or the ten members of the 911 Investigative Commission wish to leave any American the impression that there was anything to hide?

    Yet they do. Repeatedly, deliberately and consistently - through their actions and their words. The grandest of lies about the largest mass murder in American history, wiith a profound contempt for due process, justice, decency and honor.

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    PRESS RELEASE

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    PILOTS FOR 9/11 TRUTH
    http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org

    Contact: Robert Balsamo
    e-mail: pilots@pilotsfor911truth.org

    OFFICIAL ACCOUNT OF  9/11 FLIGHT CONTRADICTED BY GOVERNMENT'S OWN DATA

    Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) via the Freedom of Information Act to obtain their 2002 report, "Flight Path Study-American Airlines Flight 77", consisting of a Comma Separated Value (CSV) file and Flight Path Animation, allegedly derived from Flight 77's Flight Data Recorder (FDR). The data provided by the NTSB contradict the 9/11 Commission Report in several significant ways:

    1. The NTSB Flight Path Animation approach path and altitude does not support official events.
    2. All Altitude data shows the aircraft at least 300 feet too high to have struck the light poles.
    3. The rate of descent data is in direct conflict with the aircraft being able to impact the light poles and be captured in the Dept of Defense "5 Frames" video of an object traveling nearly parallel with the Pentagon lawn.  
    4. The record of data stops at least one second prior to official impact time.  
    5. If data trends are continued, the aircraft altitude would have been at least 100 feet too high to have hit the Pentagon.

    In August, 2006, members of Pilots for 9/11 Truth received these documents from the NTSB and began a close analysis of the data they contain. After expert review and cross check, Pilots for 9/11 Truth has concluded that the information in these NTSB documents does not support, and in some instances factually contradicts, the official government position that American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon on the morning of September 11, 2001 .According to the 9/11 Commission Report, which relied heavily upon the NTSB Flight Path Study, American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon at 9:37:46 AM on the morning of September 11, 2001 .  However, the reported impact time according to the NTSB Flight Path Study is 09:37:45 . Also according to reports, American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon and by doing so, struck down 5 light poles on Highway 27 in its path to the west wall.

    The information provided by the NTSB does not support the 9/11 Commission Report of American Airlines Flight 77 impact with the Pentagon.

    Pilots for 9/11 Truth is committed to discovering the truth surrounding the events of September 11, 2001 . We have contacted both the NTSB and the FBI regarding these and other inconsistencies. To date, they have refused to comment on, correct, refute, retract or offer side-letters that might explain the discrepancies between what they claim are the data extracted from the FDR of AA Flight 77 and the official story alleging its crash into the Pentagon.As concerned citizens and professionals in the aviation industry, Pilots for 9/11 Truth asks, why have these discrepancies not been addressed by agencies within the United States Government? Why have they falsely represented their own data to the American people? Pilots for 9/11 Truth takes the position that an official government inquiry into these discrepancies is warranted and long overdue. We call upon our fellow citizens to write to their Congressional representatives to inform them of these discrepancies and call for an immediate investigation into this matter. For more information please visit pilotsfor911truth.org.

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    For detailed analysis, please view Pandora's Black Box - Chapter Two - Flight Of American 77

     

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    a species that hires bodyguards to protect them loose their ability to protect themselves, loose their sense of community and your neighbor is there to cover your back and is doomed to extinction

    this just in about your bodyguards...business has been good since they created the OkC bombing, 911 and the 1st World Trade Center bombing

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     April 19, 2008
    Prosecuting No-Threat Stumblebums
    by Alan Bock

    Earlier this week a federal judge in Miami declared a second mistrial in the case of the so-called "Liberty City 7," a group of men accused of a terrorist plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago. Only six men were on trial this time because last December a jury acquitted one of the so-called plotters and was deadlocked on the charges against the others, included the purported leader, one Narseal Batiste, 33, who was supposedly the leader of a self-styled sect called the Moorish Science Temple.

    The prosecution had at its disposal hundreds of FBI audio and video recordings documenting supposed plots, including one in which the men took an oath of allegiance to al-Qaeda. Perhaps the jury was less than impressed, however, by the fact that the oath-taking ceremony was led by an FBI informant, known as Brother Mohammed, posing as an al-Qaeda operative.

    It quickly became apparent after the arrests of these bozos that they were essentially a bunch of big-talking stumblebums and losers without money, without weapons, without military training, without anything resembling operational knowledge of what it would take to bring down the Sears Tower, and had never even been to Chicago. It turned out that most of the plots were dreamed up at the instigation of FBI informants who sat around with the men in dope-smoking sessions and urged them to dream up ever more fanciful plots. The informants promised to come up with $50,000 to finance the plot and get access to explosives and other nasty stuff. Batiste testified that he was merely trying to con the informant out of $50,000.

    By the time of the arrest, the only things resembling evidence that this was anything approaching a serious plot were some cameras and military boots and a warehouse. All this had been supplied by the FBI informants. There were no weapons, ammunition or explosives.

    In his closing argument during the December trial, Albert Levin, an attorney for one of the accused, said that "This was all written, produced, directed, choreographed and stage-designed by the United States government." That appears to be the case, and it appears to be what two juries believed.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few home-grown terrorist cells in the United States consisting of fairly serious people who just might have a chance to pull off an attack that caused some serious destruction. There might even be some cells with connections to foreign groups.

    But almost all the cases brought forward by the U.S. government so far – each time with portentous self-congratulation about how the intrepid government agents had foiled yet another dangerous plot that could have wreaked untold death and destruction on innocent American citizens – has more closely resembled the Liberty City 7 case. In almost every instance the "plotters" have turned out to be a bunch of pathetic losers who made the mistake of talking nonsense and then getting infiltrated by government agents who goaded them into dreaming of ever-bigger death and destruction, then supplied (at taxpayer expense) the only elements of supposed plot that came even close to resembling something real.

    There's the case of the "Fort Dix Six," arrested last May and charged with a plot to attack the military base in New Jersey. The supposed plotters consisted of a taxi driver, a former pizza delivery boy and three roofers who had no money, no training and pretty much no clue. But the FBI infiltrated the group of slackers, urged them to dream up the plot while collecting incriminating evidence, and promised to give them access to rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47s, none of which ever quite materialized.

    In most cases there were serious elements of entrapment – undercover government agents urging the supposed plotters to commit crimes they might not have thought of by themselves and had no capacity to commit without government help even if they had thought of them.

    Entrapment and "sting" operations, setting up fictional crimes that carry real sentences, are all too common in U.S. law enforcement. As ethically dubious as such operations are, however, they have traditionally been carried out against people whom the police have a reasonably well-grounded suspicion are already involved in some kind of criminal or at least illicit activities, such as burglary, fencing or drug dealing. Thus we hear, from time to time, of a bunch of petty thieves being invited to a warehouse where they can get cash for their stolen goods and being arrested upon arrival.

    The difference with the domestic terrorist "plots" is that in almost every single instance there was no activity more criminal than foolish talk before the undercover informants got involved. What seems to be the case with these concoctions is that the government is manufacturing plots at least in part to develop fear in the general populace, most of whom hear little more about these stumblebums beyond the initial press conference announcing that yet another dread terrorist cell has been stymied, but there are others out there, so be very afraid.

    There's also the little matter of justifying the $4 billion a year or so the feds are spending on anti-terrorism boondoggles. As Rolling Stone explained in a valuable recent article, "The Fear Factory," which describes several more episodes of stumblebums prodded by the feds, there are now 102 Joint Terrorism Task Forces spread around the country, consisting of FBI agents, local police and agents from other federal agencies including Immigration, the IRS and the CIA. They've got to have some apparent successes to justify all this expenditure of time and money, so they increasingly resort to paid informants, often enough drug dealers or real criminals seeking reduced sentences.

    The Rolling Stone story also includes a valuable sidebar describing various efforts to ratchet up fear, whether by describing a supposed plot or raising the threat level to Orange, accompanied by the generally inconsequential or non-existent evidence supporting the fear-mongering, along with the potentially embarrassing political incident that just happened to coincide with the breathless warnings.

    All this suggests that while there is probably some real danger, the threat of domestic terrorism in the United States is drastically and purposely overblown by the government to justify ever-greater expenditures of money and liberty-threatening surveillance. And even if the bogus plots the government has chosen to publicize had been real, they would have caused strictly localized damage akin to what hurricanes or tornadoes cause, and much less than has been caused by recent floods or would be caused by the earthquakes the prognosticators have once again warned are imminent in California.

    We are encouraged to live in fear and trembling of the terrorist jihadist threat when the potential damage, even if the threats were real, is on the kind of scale that insurance companies and local governments are well equipped to handle.

    Add the fact that that Stratfor.com and other private international intelligence sources have sent out several e-mail essays in recent months suggesting that for all the likelihood that al-Qaeda Central has to some extent reconstituted itself along the Afghan-Pakistan border, one of the reasons it hasn't mounted a major attack on the U.S. since 9/11 is that it simply doesn't have the operational capacity to do so. Its successes of late have come from adopting local groups – al-Qaeda in Iraq – and to some extent offering advice and training. But there may be less to it than many people suspect.

    All this makes the recent advice from the invaluable Bruce Fein, who served in the Reagan Justice Department, timely and relevant. In the series of pieces on Slate.com offering tips to the next president, whoever he or she may be, he includes this:

    "End the ‘war on terror' as a legal paradigm. International terrorists are criminals, not warriors. The next president should see to it that terrorists will be captured, interrogated, prosecuted, and punished according to civilian law. The United States is not at war with international terrorism. The next president should ensure that we do not brandish the weapons of war in lieu of traditional law enforcement against international terrorists."

    Haven't we lived in fear of phantom threats long enough?

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    FBI Documents Confirm Bush Allowed Saudis To Escape After 9/11 ...
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    April 20, 2008 at 10:29:14

    9/11: UNITED 93 DATA PROVIDED BY US GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SUPPORT OBSERVED EVENTS

    by rob balsamo

    http://www.opednews.com



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    PRESS RELEASE

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    PILOTS FOR 9/11 TRUTH
    http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org

    Contact: Robert Balsamo
    e-mail: pilots@pilotsfor911truth.org

    UNITED 93 DATA PROVIDED BY US GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SUPPORT OBSERVED EVENTS

    Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) via the Freedom of Information Act to obtain United Flight 93 Flight Data Recorder information, consisting of a Comma Separated Value (CSV) file and Flight Path Animation, allegedly derived from Flight 93 Flight Data Recorder (FDR). The data provided by the NTSB contradict observed events in several significant ways:

    1. The NTSB Flight Path Animation approach path and altitude does not support observations.
    2. All Altitude data on the northern approach contradicts witnesses published by the New York Times.
    3. Witness observations of approach path contradict northern approach as described by Popular Mechanics and the US Govt. Several witnesses observed the aircraft approaching from southeast over Indian Lake and from the south prior to witnessing explosion. Parts found in New Baltimore, 8 miles southeast of crater is a direct contradiction to the northern approach claimed by the US Govt.
    4. Environmental Protection Agency reports no soil contamination of jet fuel after testing 5,000-6,000 yards of earth including 3 ground wells. Smoke plume photographed by a witness does not suggest a jet fuel rich explosion.  
    5. Impact angle according to Flight Data Recorder does not support an almost vertical impact as the govt story and crater suggests.

    In May, 2007, members of Pilots for 9/11 Truth received these documents from the NTSB and began a close analysis of the data they contain. After expert review and cross check, Pilots for 9/11 Truth has concluded that the information in these NTSB documents does not support, and in some instances factually contradicts, the official government position that United Airlines Flight 93 created the impact crater as reported, in Somerset County, PA on the morning of September 11, 2001. According to the US Govt, United Airlines Flight 93 approached Somerset County from the North-Northwest at a high altitude on the morning of September 11, 2001.  However, many witnesses contradict altitude as well as approach path. Also according to reports, and as the impact crater suggests, United Airlines Flight 93 impacted terrain at an almost vertical 90 degree angle, while the Flight Data Recorder shows a 35 degree angle with up-sloping terrain, further reducing impact angle.

    The information provided by the US Government does not support reports of United Airlines Flight 93 approach, impact angles, and lack of jet fuel at Somerset Country, PA.

    Pilots for 9/11 Truth is committed to discovering the truth surrounding the events of September 11, 2001 . We have contacted both the NTSB and the FBI regarding these and other inconsistencies. To date, they have refused to comment on, correct, refute, retract or offer side-letters that might explain the discrepancies between what they claim are the data extracted from the FDR of United Flight 93 and the events observed. As concerned citizens and professionals in the aviation industry, Pilots for 9/11 Truth asks, why have these discrepancies not been addressed by agencies within the United States Government? Pilots for 9/11 Truth takes the position that an official government inquiry into these discrepancies is warranted and long overdue. We call upon our fellow citizens to write to their Congressional representatives to inform them of these discrepancies and call for an immediate investigation into this matter. For more information and in depth analysis please visit pilotsfor911truth.org.

    Members of Pilots For 9/11 Truth at http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html

     

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    I believe FBI  agents are effecting the stories I post about crimes committed by FBI agents at the Newspaper Index Forum.
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    Calls for Judicial Oversight of FBI Demands on Library Information
    By Joan Oleck -- School Library Journal, 5/6/2008

    If the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT) has its way, the FBI may no longer be in charge of national security letters?the federal subpoenas provided under the 2001 Patriot Act.

    "In an era of cell phones, BlackBerries, and ubiquitous Internet access, there is no reason why a system of judicial review and consistent, searching Congressional oversight cannot be designed to serve the government's legitimate needs," CDT's Greg Nojeim told a Senate Judiciary Committee on April 23.

    CDT is a nonprofit, public-interest organization that promotes civil liberties for the new digital communications media. One of its priorities is to make sure there?s a balance between national security and individual freedoms in the wake of 9/11.

    Librarians, of course, are no strangers to national security letters. Shortly after September 11, 2001 the federal subpoenas were sent to librarians, seeking information about patrons? electronic transactions.

    Although national security letters are now subject to a judge's review, such reviews often do not occur, Nojeim testified. That?s one of the reasons CDT has recommended passage of Senate bill 2088, which would reform national security letters. In March, the American Library Association and five other organizations concerned with free speech filed an appeal arguing that the information required by the national secuity letters is normally unnecessary to fight terrorism. The groups also objected to the fact that recipents of the letters risked imprisonment if they publicily revealed they had received the federal subpoenas.
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    Lockerbie: The Doctor's Strange Story
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    "Weird and inexplicable happenings haunted the Lockerbie disaster on the very night the plane went down -- December 21, 1988."
    --Investigation into Lockerbie, 1995, Paul Foot and John Ashton

    Back in 1988, Dr. David Fieldhouse was a police surgeon from Bradford, Yorkshire. On Dec. 21, Fieldhouse heard about the crash of Pan Am 103 on "News at Ten." He immediately phoned the Lockerbie police station to volunteer his help and experience, which the Lockerbie Police eagerly accepted.

                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
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    Minutes later, Fieldhouse was driving on the highway to Scotland and arrived to Lockerbie shortly before midnight. There, he reported to the police station. After having received his instructions, he was sent out with a police officer to find bodies and certify them dead.

    "My work began after briefings and involved several square miles of the crash scene over a period of about 16 hours -- ending, as I recall, at about 1600 hours on 22nd December 1988.

    "During those hours of the search for and confirmation of death in the case of many bodies, I was accompanied by one or more police officers at all times. We occasionally met others both during the night and the ensuing day," Fieldhouse told me.

    Fieldhouse was working to the east and southeast of Lockerbie between Middlebie and Tundergarth, which happens to be the earliest place where the bodies fell from the plane.

    When he reported to the police station that evening, he had certified 58 bodies dead and labeled them accordingly from DCF 1 to DCF 58.

    "I saw 58 bodies during that period of the search. Fifty-five of them were to the Northwest of a road that runs from Middlebie to Bankshill and only three were to the Southeast of that road.
                   

                                           

    "I confirmed death in the case of many bodies including one that I afterwards learned was that of McKee [an American intelligence operative returning from Lebanon]. At the time I saw the bodies I made brief notes which included, in some cases, a note of any clothing remaining on them and in every case, the sex and any major injuries visible, such as decapitation or loss of a limb," he said.

    Identification

    For several weeks after the explosion, Fieldhouse traveled on one day per week to Lockerbie to work on the computers installed at the temporary headquarters of the team at the Academy, a School in Lockerbie, in order to help the police identify the bodies and where they had been found. On each of those occasions, Fieldhouse was officially signed, or logged, in on arrival and logged out on departure.

    "I always had a police officer, not always the same one, to assist me in the work. The aim was to work out the identities of the bodies I had certified as dead at the scene of the crash during the night of 21st and the daylight hours of 22nd December 1988 by looking through all the information available at the time such as statements, post mortem notes, other reports," Fieldhouse explained to me.

    Fieldhouse was told that information was made available on a "need to know" basis only. It is thus likely that so some was probably withheld from him. He was told that the computers were linked to Washington.

    "My identification was limited to correlating the bodies I had certified as being dead with those logged by the police. My sole aim in doing so was to enable me to write an accurate report of which persons I had pronounced deceased and at roughly what times I had done so," he said.

    Reputation Tarnished

    Nearly two years later, during the Fatal Accident Inquiry (FAI) into the Lockerbie disaster, Fieldhouse was unjustifiably tarnished by a police officer in official sworn evidence.

    Led by Lord Fraser of Carmyllie, the Scottish Lord Advocate, Sgt. David Johnston of the Strathclyde police started his evidence about Fieldhouse as follows.

    "On the evening of the disaster, and in the early hours of the following day, Fieldhouse went out and examined a number of victims on his own, pronouncing life extinct, and attached on them his own form of identification. This was not known to us until some considerable time later," Johnston said.

    The Lord Advocate continued with a series of similar questions that were all intended to destroy the credibility of Fieldhouse. After asking about the discovery of the body of American businessman Tom Ammerman, Fraser went as far as suggesting that Fieldhouse was not a medical doctor.

    "Would this be another example of or Mr. Fieldhouse carrying out a search on his own?" the Lord Advocate asked.

    "It would, my Lord," Johnston said.

    "And marking the body of a person who is dead without notifying the police?"

    "That is correct."

    False Accusations

    In fact, Fieldhouse was accompanied throughout by police officers, three of whom he has named. Ammerman's body had been found by Fieldhouse and an accompanying police officer. Both men agreed on the report.

    On Jan. 22, 1991, Fieldhouse appeared at the inquiry. He had no difficulty to swiftly dispose of all the false allegations that had been tossed against him.

    "I would record my thanks to Fieldhouse and my apologies for the undeserved criticism of his activities," concluded Sheriff Mowat, who was in charge of the inquiry.

    'I Labeled One Body DCF 49'

    "I was accompanied by three Police Officers at about 1500 hours GMT on 22nd December 1988," stated Fieldhouse. "One of them made notes for me as I dictated what I wished to be recorded. There were several bodies in a few fields near a monument south of Tundergarth church, near to Lockerbie town.

    "I labeled one body DCF 49 and recorded: Heavy adult male, multi-colored T-shirt, blue jeans, field going northwest from monument.

    "I knew that the identification of McKee was absolutely correct because of the clothing which correlated closely with the other reports and statements, and the computers that were linked up to Washington," he concluded.

    In a letter to me, former FBI agent R. Marquise, who led the Lockerbie investigation, wrote: "I would like to know about the statement attributed to Fieldhouse where he spoke of the clothing worn by McKee based on reports and statements and the computers that were linked up to Washington. Please we are talking about FBI computers I assume and we did not have any then. Before we ever had any infrastructure in place, I would imagine that McKee was identified."

    Field house explained: "The quote is very slightly incorrect and should have read: 
 reports and statements on the computers that were linked to Washington. I noted this at the time of reading the FAI report, but did not make any comment as I did not think that it was relevant, though the sense is slightly altered by the correct version of what (I think) I said."

    All Codes Erased

    In the early weeks of 1989, Fieldhouse studied the records held on the computers in the Academy (Investigation Headquarters) at Lockerbie.

    He noted that none of the codes (DCF 1 to 58) he had given to bodies was recorded on the computers. He was amazed that all except two of his labels had all been thrown away and replaced with others. "This was astounding to me," Fieldhouse said.

    Fieldhouse claims that the computer record, which seemed to match his notes relating to DCF 49, gave the mortuary body number as 225 and although he did not recall and did not note the description of the clothing on the computer file, it would certainly have correlated with his findings sufficiently for him to be confident that he had correctly "married them up."

    Body Coded DCF 12

    Fieldhouse told me a very disturbing story. He is adamant that nobody on the computer files matched the location of the one that he recorded as "DCF 12." He is almost certain of this because the body was found at a very particular location. DCF 12 was one of the three bodies southeast of the road that runs from Middlebie to Bankshill.

    "I saw 58 bodies during that period of the search," Fieldhouse told me. "Fifty-five of them were to the north of a road and only three were to the south of that road. DCF 12 was one of the three bodies south of the road. I was as confident as I could have been that I had not made any errors, but I do accept it is possible that I misunderstood the location of the body when trying to pinpoint its position on a map and trying to provide a map reference number.

    "However, if the police had recorded my codes (DCF 1 to DCF 58) on the computer records which they were compiling, there would have been no difficulty in marrying up the bodies which I had seen and the ones which they had recovered.

    "When the bodies were being examined by the pathologist, all notable characteristics such as sex, fractures, clothing were noted, but apparently not my labels. It seems inconceivable that 58 consecutive numbered codes on 58 bodies could be disregarded. Clearly it would have been obvious to the most ignorant observer that they served a purpose and that, in any event, it would have been better to record the details in case they had a usefulness not then apparent to the person recording the details in the mortuary.

    "You could not, for example get any results for a 'search and find' instruction given to the computer for 'DCF 12,' whereas it was easy enough to get results in the search for a 'black 
 face 
 ewe.' It does make one wonder why they ignored, for official purposes at least, all my reference codes and labels and this gives rise to suspicions that there was an ulterior motive on their part."

    The Aftermath

    Nearly two years later, in December 1993, Fieldhouse gave an interview for a film about Lockerbie, the "Maltese Double Cross," in which he narrates some of the events discussed in this article.

    A few days after the interview, Fieldhouse was summoned to a meeting with two senior West Yorkshire police officers at Wakefield. Without explanation, he was sacked as police surgeon with a three-month notice.

    "In my wildest dreams, I did not realize that I was to set a ball rolling which resulted in the ensuing lies by the police to the Fatal Accident Inquiry about what I had done or about the apparent missing body -- DCF 12," Fieldhouse wrote to me.

    A Final Puzzle

    The day before the Lockerbie bombing McKee called his mother. "Meet me at the Pittsburgh airport tomorrow night," McKee told his mother.

    "This was the first time Chuck ever telephoned me from Beirut," McKee's mother said. "I was flabbergasted. It's a surprise. Always before he would wait until he was back in Virginia to call and say he was coming home."

    McKee's mother says she is sure her son's sudden decision to fly home was not known to his superiors in Virginia.

    If indeed McKee was returning unannounced, one is left wondering how the computers in Washington had information concerning the clothes he was wearing on Dec. 21.
                                                           


                                                                                                                                                                                                           
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    Defence lawyers for convicted republican Michael McKevitt have claimed that gardaĂ­ investigating the Omagh bombing did not adequately investigate the credibility of FBI agent David Rupert.

    McKevitt is one of five men being sued by relatives of the victims of the Omagh bombing in 1998. 

    Mr Michael O'Higgins SC for McKevitt was questioning Superintendent Diarmuid O'Sullivan in relation to five statements Mr Rupert gave to gardaĂ­ during the investigation into the bombing in 2001.

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    Mr O'Higgins said Rupert's statement was 'a tissue of lies' and described him as a 'fraudster, drug smuggler, people smuggler and a confidence trickster'.

    Mr Rupert's evidence was key to the 2003 conviction of McKevitt, who was jailed for directing terrorism. McKevitt has always denied knowing Mr Rupert.

    The prosecution in this civil action are seeking to establish that McKevitt was the Real IRA leader who carried out the 1998 Omagh bombing.

    Superintendent O'Sullivan said it was not up to the gardaĂ­ to investigate matters relating to alleged fraud committed by Mr Rupert in the US.

    But he said he believed 90% of Mr Rupert's evidence in relation to the activities of dissident republicans had been substantiated.

    He said three judges in the Special Criminal Court and in the Court of Criminal Appeal had tested the credibility of Mr Rupert's evidence.

    Earlier, the court heard the address of a vocational school in Donegal was given to Mr Rupert as a location to ship weapons and ammunition to.

    Supt O'Sullivan said Mr Rupert had given gardaĂ­ a business card, which he said he was given from a well known republican Joe O'Neill .

    It had 'Kathleen Askin, Vocational School, College Street, Ballyshannon' handwritten on the top.

    Supt O'Sullivan said that this was the address that David Rupert was given by Joe O'Neill to ship military supplies from the US for the continuity IRA.

    The hearing, which is taking evidence in Dublin, was told that Mr Rupert passed the evidence on to gardaĂ­ who were probing terrorist activity on both sides of the border.
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    Thursday, May 15, 2008
    The Omagh bomb civil action in Dublin has heard that a senior garda and a member of the British Secret Service talked about getting rid of a document which cast doubt over FBI agent David Rupert's credibility as the chief witness in the Michael McKevitt trial.

    The court has heard that the conversation arose out of an allegation, made by David Rupert in an email, that the chief superintendent at the time effectively had no regard for loss of life in the North.

    This is day four of the action in Dublin in which Gardai who investigated the 1998 atrocity are giving evidence.

    Michael O'Higgins, for Michael McKevitt, who is serving 20 years for directing terrorism, continues to cross-examine a detective superintendent this afternoon.

    Mr O'Higgins has referred to a document written up by an MI5 operative detailing a conversation between him and Chief Superintendent Dermot Jennings in February 2001.

    The court heard they discussed an allegation made by David Rupert in an email stating that Jennings was only interested in illegal activity in the Republic, which Mr O'Higgins told the court effectively suggested that Jennings, as a senior garda, had no regard for loss of life in the North.

    The court has heard that Jennings urged that the report which contained that allegation be removed after the MI5 operative suggested that, if the defence got hold of it, it could make Rupert an untrustworthy source.

    The detective superintendent in the stand said the emails were disclosed to the defence in the McKevitt trial and Jennings was available to be cross-examined, but the defence, for whatever reason, didn't act on this.

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    TWO READS ABOUT FBI AGENTS WHO MAKE THINGS GO BOOM

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    KP school buildings shake as FBI holds explosives demo at psychiatric center
     
     
     
    By Joe Darrow write the author
     
    May 16, 2008 | 11:25 AM
    If you were near the former Kings Park Psychiatric Center last Wednesday afternoon and happened to hear explosions or see smoke, you were not mistaken, but neither were you in danger, according to the FBI. In fact, you as well as a number of children and teachers in nearby schools were distant witnesses of counter-terrorism training for local law enforcement officials.

    Last week the New York FBI Counterterrorism Division and special agent bomb technicians, along with the Suffolk County bomb squad, offered more than 60 federal, state and local law enforcement personnel a five-day course in indoor post-terrorism incident crime scene investigation. Police recipients included investigators, bomb technicians, crime scene response units and crime lab personnel. The Wednesday session included an outdoor demonstration at the former mental hospital of explosive devices — and the evidence their detonation leaves behind — used in recent terrorist attacks. Instructors set off about 30 different explosives in a two-hour span, an FBI spokesman said.

    Several blasts were heard and felt by onlookers as well as children and staff in nearby Kings Park School District buildings.

    Students at William T. Rogers Middle School, about a quarter-mile away from the blast site, heard the explosions and saw smoke rising over the trees, according to a parent. Kings Park Superintendent of Schools Martin Brooks said school employees at San Remo "said they could feel the building's walls shake."

    "I understand the need to hold the drills, but they were loud," Brooks said. "If you're doing a lesson on math and a loud explosion occurs ... the attention of the kids gets diverted to the noise."

    The district had been notified ahead of time, the superintendent said, and he sent a letter home to parents the day before, May 6, warning them of the potential disruption to students. He said the district received a few complaints from parents, but beyond the momentary disturbance, students took the noises in stride.

    "I think that the staff was prepared and therefore the kids were fine," Brooks said. "It went off uneventfully from our point of view."

    Although, he added, "In the best of all worlds it would have been done in some place where we couldn't have heard all the noise."

    Of greater concern than the noise, Brooks said, was the fact that the demonstrations were being held from 12:30 to 2:30 pm, the latter about the time teens are dismissed at nearby Kings Park High School, creating the possibility of students wandering onto the blast site.

    "The Suffolk County Police Department has assured me that officers will be stationed throughout the area of the drill to insure that curious students and residents don't actually wander onto the area of the site," Brooks wrote in his advisory letter. "In addition we have notified our building principals and asked them to take the necessary precautions to keep students away from the site."

    New York FBI office spokesman Special Agent James Margolin said law enforcement officers had anticipated this concern, placing officers to intercept anyone approaching the training site. As far as he had heard, police had encountered no wanderers. "Even if someone did manage to wander onto the scene, they would have been noticed" and made to stay behind a perimeter, he said.

    The bomb demonstration was "perfectly safe," Margolin stressed, saying it produced some flashes and bangs, but no safety risk. "The worst effect to the neighboring population was some loud noises occasionally," he added.

    According to Margolin, the grounds of the former Kings Park mental hospital, now property of the state Office of Parks with a portion embodying the Nissequogue River State Park, was selected for the workshop due to its combination of large open spaces and abandoned buildings, necessary for staging both inside and outside terrorist attack scenarios.

    "This isn't something we do all the time," Margolin said. "On balance, ... disturbance to the community is outweighed by the training benefit that law enforcement gains."

    Steve Weber of San Remo, who has a son, Nick, 12, at the middle school and a daughter, Angel, 9, at RJO Intermediate School, only slightly further down Old Dock Road heading away from the blast site, said the feeling among parents he's spoken with is that the explosions were "way too close to the schools."

    "Not only is this a disruption to class, but what if something goes wrong? There is no margin for error," Weber wrote in an email.

    "Law enforcement agencies train in the Nissequogue River State Park on a regular basis, using the old buildings for this training," Weber wrote. "I 100-percent support this, even if the park has to be closed while they are training — it's just a small accommodation which we can make to support those who risk their lives to protect us. I just don't think that the [park] is the place for the detonation of explosives and other live fire exercises."
     

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    Published: Thursday, Feb. 22, 2007 1:02 p.m. MST
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    The only surviving convicted criminal in the April 19, 1995, bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City is saying his co-conspirator, Timothy McVeigh, told him he was taking orders from a top FBI official in orchestrating the bombing.
    A declaration from Terry Lynn Nichols, filed in U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City, has proven to be one of the most detailed confessions by Nichols to date about his involvement in the bombing as well as the involvement of others. However, one congressman who has investigated the bombings remains skeptical of Nichols' claims.

    The declaration was filed as part of Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue's pending wrongful death suit against the government for the death of his brother in a federal corrections facility in Oklahoma City. Trentadue claims his brother was killed during an interrogation by FBI agents when agents mistook his brother for a suspect in the Oklahoma City bombing investigation.

    The most shocking allegation in the 19-page signed declaration is Nichols' assertion that the whole bombing plot was an FBI operation and that McVeigh let slip during a bout of anger that he was taking instruction from former FBI official Larry Potts.


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     Potts was no stranger to anti-government confrontations, having been the lead FBI agent at Ruby Ridge in 1992, which led to the shooting death of Vicki Weaver, the wife of separatist Randy Weaver. Potts also was reportedly involved in the 51-day siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas in 1993, which resulted in a fire that killed 81 Branch Davidian followers.
    Potts retired from the FBI under intense pressure and criticism for the cover-up of an order to allow agents to shoot anyone seen leaving the Weaver cabin at Ruby Ridge.

    When contacted, the FBI's main office in Washington, D.C., said it could not provide immediate comment on Nichols' claims Tuesday.

    Nichols claims that, in December 1992, McVeigh told him that "while he was serving in the U.S. Army, he had been recruited to carry out undercover missions."

    In the next few years, the two men hatched the bombing plot. In October 1994, "McVeigh and I stole explosives from a quarry in Marion, Kansas consisting of 8 1/2 cases or boxes containing 229 (2-inch by 16-inch) sticks of the gel type explosive known as Tovex," Nichols wrote, adding that only a small amount was used in the actual bombing.

    It was while traveling the gun-show circuit that Nichols claims the two obtained bombmaking knowledge and the materials used in the bombing. One example is that McVeigh allegedly attended a gun show in Knob Creek, Ky., in 1993.

    "At this gun show, McVeigh had the opportunity to make contact with about 20 people who were bomb experts. McVeigh told me that he himself had no knowledge about how to construct a bomb, but that he always wanted to gain more knowledge about how to construct bombs," Nichols stated.


    Nichols says he knew McVeigh was building the bomb, and in November 1994 he left for the Philippines to get away from the area to avoid being implicated.
    "I did not want to be present when and if McVeigh did explode a bomb. Consequently, I left for the Philippines to be out of the country," he wrote.

    That statement contradicts findings of Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, R-California, whose study on the bombing was made public last December. It indicated Nichols had traveled to the Philippines to receive bombing training by a possible foreign terrorist.

    Having not heard of any bombing, Nichols said he returned to the U.S. in January 1995. It was later that, in a fit of rage, McVeigh mentioned Potts' name, Nichols wrote.

    "McVeigh said he believed Potts was manipulating him and forcing him to 'go off script,' which I understood meant to change the target of the bombing," Nichols stated.

    It wasn't until April 18, 1995, that Nichols said he helped McVeigh construct a bomb at Geary Lake. The bomb was comprised of "metal and white plastic" barrels which were filled with ammonium nitrate fertilizer and mixed with nitromethane. In all he estimates between 90 to 92 fifty-pound bags of fertilizer went into the barrels and explosive sticks were placed in the holes of each barrel.


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     Nichols said he had no further role in renting the Ryder truck and claims he did not know the target, only that McVeigh "wanted to make a statement" by "targeting some structure."
    After hearing about the bombing of the federal building, which killed 168 adults and children, Nichols said he panicked when his name came up on the radio and he wanted to turn himself in — but not before hiding evidence, including explosives used in the bombing.

    The claims made in the declaration have added yet more twists to the mystery surrounding the bombings. Some familiar with the bombing's history say Nichols' claims seem to indicate the FBI put McVeigh up to the plot as a draw for radicals, but that the situation got out of control and McVeigh became a runaway informant.

    After reviewing the declaration, Rohrabacher told the Deseret Morning News that Nichols' claims should be investigated but treated with extreme skepticism.

    "I need to caution people to remember that Terry Nichols is a mass murderer," Rohrabacher said. "But if Terry Nichols is beginning to reveal some of the information that's been kept from the public, I'd be very happy about that."

    Rohrabacher also expressed disappointment with the FBI and the Department of Justice for not adequately following up on indications there were others who helped Nichols and McVeigh.

    The congressman said he no longer is chairman of the subcommittee that conducted the investigation and is "dismayed" that no one else in Congress seems interested in the matter.

    Nichols said he has much more information, which he offered to former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2004, but is willing to divulge only under sworn video deposition. Trentadue said he plans to seek that deposition of Nichols, but "I expect one hell of a fight with the Department of Justice."

    Nichols is serving life in prison without parole after being convicted by a jury for his role in the bombing. McVeigh also was convicted and on June 11, 2001 was executed in Terre Haute, Ind.

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    This month, for our 9/11 film series, we will be showing 9/11: Blueprint for Truth - The Architecture of Destruction. This filmed lecture by architect Richard Gage surveys the full range of evidence suggesting that World Trade Centers 1, 2 and 7 were each destroyed from within by explosives. As many of you know, Richard Gage is the force behind the organization Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (ae911truth.org), which has been gathering momentum among building professionals calling for a new 9/11 investigation.

    I hope you can join us for this important film. As usual we will leave time for a discussion afterwards.

    Date, time and place:

    Friday, May 23rd, 7:00 pm
    Meg Perry Center
    644 Congress St., Portland

    Regards,

    Stephen Shaw
    for maine911truth.org
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    Jesse Trentadue wishes the family of Ronnie L. White luck - and fortitude - as they seek to find who killed their son while he was imprisoned in a Prince George's County jail.

    Mr. Trentadue spent the past 13 years trying to find out why his brother died in a federal prison in Oklahoma and approached everyone from former federal agents to convicted Oklahoma City bomber conspirator Terry Lynn Nichols.

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    Since then, the Trentadue family has fought with federal authorities for more information about Kenneth's death, placing an enlarged photo of Kenneth's autopsy on a billboard in Florida and seeking a deposition from Terry Nichols, who is serving a life sentence for helping Timothy McVeigh in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.

    The NAACP on Wednesday called for the suspension of nine corrections officers who had been charged with watching Mr. White at the Prince George's Corrections Center.

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    Mr. Trentadue, a Salt Lake City trial lawyer, said he has closely followed news of Mr. White's death this week and was struck when he learned that two small bones had been broken in his neck, indicating strangulation.

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    Rod Lamkey Jr./The Washington Times Inmate Ronnie L. White was strangled at the Prince George's County Correctional Center.

    Mr. Trentadue urged the White family to stay strong.

    "It will be a tremendous fight, and it will take a lot of resources not only financially, but physically, mentally and emotionally," he said.

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    The JFK Assassination and 9/11: the Designated Suspects in Both Cases


    Global Research, July 5, 2008




    Global Research recently published my essay entitled  9/11, Deep State Violence and the Hope of Internet Politics  In this article, I argue that 9/11 should be analyzed as a deep event (an event not fully aired or understood because of its intelligence connections) and above all as one of a series of deep events which from time to time have frustrated peace initiatives or become pretexts for war.

    In support of this overall thesis I pointed to features of 9/11 which recalled similar deep events: the still not fully understood outbreak of the Korean War in 1950, the JFK assassination, and the so-called Second Tonkin Gulf Incident of 1964 (an alleged attack on U.S. destroyers which we now know never happened).

    The similarities between these deep events which have disturbed American history since World War Two suggest that they are not just a sequence of unrelated external accidents, but at least in part the product of some on-going deep indigenous force not yet adequately understood.

    In this series of deep events, perhaps the most striking similarities are between the JFK assassination (henceforward referred to as "JFK") and 9/11. Earlier talks and articles I have delivered on this topic are developed even further in my forthcoming much expanded reissue of my early book, The War Conspiracy. As The War Conspiracy: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War, it is due to be published by the Mary Ferrell Foundation Press in August 2008.

    The following essay is the concluding section of the new book, and has never hitherto been published.]


    I wish to summarize again the first striking similarity between 11/22/63 and of 9/11/01: the dubious detective work on those two days. Less than fifteen minutes after the President’s assassination, the height and weight of Kennedy’s alleged killer was posted.
    1 Before the last of the hijacked planes crashed on 9/11, the FBI told Richard Clarke that they had a list of alleged hijackers.2

    In the case of Oswald, within fifteen minutes of the assassination and long before Oswald was picked up in the Texas Theater, Inspector Sawyer of the Dallas police put out on the police radio network, and possibly other networks, a description of the killer – "About 30, 5’10", 165 pounds."3 As noted, this height and weight exactly matched the measurements attributed to Lee Harvey Oswald in Oswald’s FBI file, and also in CIA documents about him.4

    The announced height and weight were however different from Oswald’s actual measurements, as recorded by the Dallas police after his arrest: 5’9 1/2", 131 pounds.5 More importantly, there is no credible source for the posted measurements from any witness in Dallas. (The witness said to have spotted him, Howard Brennan, failed to identify Oswald in a line-up.)6 This leaves the possibility that the measurements were taken from existing files on Oswald, rather than from any observations in Dallas on November 22. If so, someone with access to those files may have already designated Oswald as the culprit, before there was any evidence to connect him to the crime.

    A similar situation pertains to the alleged hijackers on 9/11. For example, shortly afterwards men in Saudi Arabia complained that "the hijackers' `personal details’" released by the FBI -- "including name, place, date of birth and occupation -- matched their own."7 One of them, Saeed al-Ghamdi, claimed further that an alleged photograph shown on CNN (of an alleged Flight 93 hijacker with the same name) was in fact a photograph of himself. He speculated "that CNN had probably got the picture from the Flight Safety flying school he attended in Florida."8

    If the above information is accurate, then the details posted by the FBI and CNN about the alleged hijackers cannot have derived from the events of 9/11, with which the survivors in Saudi Arabia would appear to have been uninvolved. Once again this leaves the strong possibility that the details were taken from existing files, rather than from empirical observations on September 11.9

    And some of the hijackers, like Lee Harvey Oswald, may have been in CIA files for a special reason: because the CIA had an operational interest in them.

    Internal CIA Evidence of Operational Interest in Oswald and the Hijackers

    I have speculated that Oswald, like the al-Qaeda trainer Ali Mohamed, might have been a double agent reporting to the FBI about the terrorist group (Alpha 66) with which some law enforcement officers associated him.

    I would like now to discuss more unequivocal evidence, from internal CIA records, about an operational CIA interest in first Oswald and later two of the alleged al-Qaeda hijackers, Nawaz al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdar. In 2001 as in 1963 the CIA inexplicably withheld information about the subjects from the FBI, which ought categorically to have received it. The anomalies are extreme.

    This is now easy to show in the case of Oswald. On October 10, 1963, six

    weeks before the assassination of John F. Kennedy, CIA Headquarters sent out two messages about Oswald, a teletype to the FBI, State, and Navy, and a cable to the chief of the CIA’s Mexico City station. Both messages contained false and mutually contradictory statements, and also withheld known facts of great potential importance.10 The teletype to the FBI withheld the obviously significant information that Oswald had reportedly met in Mexico City with a Soviet Vice-Consul, Valeriy Kostikov, who was believed by CIA officers to be an officer of the KGB.11

    One CIA officer, Jane Roman, helped draft both messages. In 1995 she was confronted by two interviewers with irrefutable evidence that she had signed off on erroneous information about Oswald in the CIA cable to Mexico City. After much questioning, she finally admitted, "I’m signing off on something I know isn’t true." One of the interviewers, John Newman, then asked her, "‘Is this indicative of some sort of operational interest in Oswald’s file?’ ‘Yes,’ Roman replied. ‘To me it’s indicative of a keen interest in Oswald held very closely on the need-to-know basis.’" She later repeated, "I would think there was definitely some operational reason to withhold it [the information at CIA headquarters on Oswald], if it was not sheer administrative error, when you see all the people who signed off on it."12

    Other CIA officers withheld important information from the FBI in January 2000, with respect to Khalid al-Mihdar, who would later be identified as one of the al-Qaeda hijackers on September 11, 2001. The NSA overheard on a Yemeni telephone about a meeting in Malaysia which al-Mihdar would attend, along with Tewfiq bin Attash, the mastermind of the fatal attack on the USS Cole.13 It notified the CIA but not the FBI. In consequence

    [Khalid al-Mihdar’s] Saudi passport – which contained a visa for travel to the United States – was photocopied [in Qatar] and forwarded to CIA headquarters. The information was not shared with FBI headquarters until August 2001. An FBI agent detailed to the Bin Ladin unit at the CIA attempted to share this information with colleagues at FBI Headquarters. A CIA desk officer instructed him not to send the cable with this information. Several hours later, this same desk officer drafted a cable distributed solely within CIA alleging that the visa documents had been shared with the FBI.14

    Lawrence Wright, reviewing this and other significant anomalies, reported in The Looming Tower the belief among FBI agents following bin Laden "that the agency was protecting Mihdar and [his companion, the alleged 9/11 hijacker Nawaz al-] Hazmi because it hoped to recruit them," or alternatively that "the CIA was running a joint venture with Saudi intelligence" using al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi.15 Wright himself speculated in a companion essay he wrote for The New Yorker that "The CIA may also have been protecting an overseas operation and was afraid that the F.B.I. would expose it."16

    The Consequences of the CIA’s Withholding of Evidence

    As just noted, the CIA, in its teletype to the FBI of October 10, 1963, withheld the information that Oswald had reportedly met with a KGB officer, Valeriy Kostikov. Former FBI Director Clarence Kelley in his memoir later complained that this failure to inform the FBI was the major reason why Oswald was not put under surveillance on November 22, 1963.17 In other words, the withholding enabled Oswald to play whatever role he played on that fateful day, even if it was only to become a designated patsy.

    FBI officials are even more bitter about the consequences of the withholding of information about al-Mihdar:

    They didn’t want the bureau meddling in their business – that’s why they didn’t tell the FBI
.They purposely hid from the FBI, purposely refused to tell the bureau that they were following a man in Malaysia who had a visa to come to America
.And that’s why September 11 happened. That is why it happened
.They have blood on their hands. They have three thousand deaths on their hands.18

    But the CIA withheld information from the FBI about bin Attash (already the subject of a criminal investigation) as well, even when asked by an FBI agent, Ali Soufan, about bin Attash and the Malaysia meeting. According to Wright,

    The agency did not respond to his clearly stated request. The fact that the CIA withheld information about the mastermind of the Cole bombing and the meeting in Malaysia, when directly asked by the FBI, amounted to obstruction of justice in the death of the seventeen American sailors."19

    In late August 2001, only days before 9/11, FBI agent Steve Bongardt, complaining about the CIA’s withholding of information about al-Mihdar, correctly predicted in an angry email to the CIA’s bin Laden unit that "someday someone will die."20

     

    The CIA’s Dishonest Efforts to Cover-Up

    From the moment Congress, in the 1970s, began to evince an interest in the Kennedy assassination, former CIA officer David Phillips became a vigorous defender of the CIA’s performance. With respect to false information about Oswald in CIA cables both to and from Mexico City (where Phillips was in charge of Cuban affairs for the CIA station), Phillips’s first response was to dismiss Oswald as "a blip" of no interest.21

    A similar defense of the CIA’s failure to act on al-Mihdar was offered to the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11 by the Director of the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center, Cofer Black: "I think that month we watchlisted about 150 people."22 The same defense was offered by Dale Watson, the FBI’s former counterterrorism chief:

    There were a lot of red flags prior to 9/11
.So it’s a mass of information and it’s a sea of threats, and it’s like working against a maze. If you know where the end point of a maze is, it’s certainly easier to work your way back to the starting point than trying to go through the maze and sort out all the red flags.23

    The problem with this excuse is that both Oswald and al-Mihdar were singled out for special CIA attention, not left floating in a sea of red flags. The cable to Mexico City which Jane Roman signed off on was not handled routinely, it was sent for signature to the CIA’s Assistant Deputy Director for Plans, Thomas Karamessines. And in the case of al-Mihdar in Malaysia, back in 2000

    CIA leaders were so convinced about the potential significance of the al Qaeda meeting in Malaysia, they not only set up surveillance of it, but provided regular updates to the FBI director [Louis Freeh], the head of the CIA [George Tenet], and the national security advisor [Samuel Berger].24

    That Freeh and Berger were being notified at the top about the Malaysia meeting (at the same time that the regular FBI bureaucracy was being cut out) is confirmed in accounts by Terry McDermott and Philip Shenon.25

    CIA officials testified falsely to congressional committees with respect to both Oswald and al-Mihdar. James Angleton was asked by the staff of the House Select Committee on Assassinations about a memoir written by the CIA’s station chief in Mexico City, Win Scott, and later personally retrieved for the Agency after Scott’s death by Angleton himself. Angleton testified that Scott’s "manuscript was fictional and did not include a chapter on Oswald." In fact, according to Jefferson Morley, "The only surviving manuscript is clearly nonfictional and does have a chapter on Oswald."26

    Both George Tenet and Cofer Black testified before the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11 that the FBI had been granted access to the information linking al-Mihdar and Tewfiq bin Attash (alias Khallad), the mastermind of the Cole bombing. The 9/11 Commission, after a lengthy review of the matter, concluded "this was not the case."27

    The CIA, Oswald, and Al-Mihdar: Suppression of Vital Records

    That the CIA regards its relationship to the suspects Oswald and al-Mihdar as sensitive is further illustrated by its suppression of vital evidence with respect to both. Although in the 1990s all government agencies were required by law to submit their Oswald-related documents to the Assassination Records Review Board, the CIA has been vigorously resisting pressure to do this in the case of former CIA officer George Joannides. In 1963 Joannides was the case officer for AMSPELL, the CIA’s operation in support of the Cuban exile group DRE (Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil). In August 1963 the DRE was in contact with Oswald and participated with him in a radio broadcast which was later distributed with CIA help throughout Latin America.28

    According to Jefferson Morley, "four decades after the fact, the most important AMSPELL records are missing from CIA archives – perhaps intentionally." Monthly reports on DRE activities were filed by CIA case officers Ross Crozier and William Kent, and these records were declassified by the ARRB for the periods September 1960-November 1962 and after May 1964.

    But the board was unable to locate any monthly AMSPELL reports from December 1962 to April 1964. There was a seventeen-month gap in the AMSPELL records, which coincided exactly with the period in which George Joannides handled the group.29

    With respect to 9/11, all that is known about suppression so far has to do with the public record. Here it is striking that the Report of the Joint Inquiry by Congress into 9/11 has one glaring redaction of twenty-eight pages, dealing with "sources of foreign support for some of the September 11th hijackers while they were in the United States." Press reports have specified that this refers to Saudi money which reached al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi in 2000 while they were in San Diego. According to committee cochair Senator Bob Graham,

    The draft contained a twenty-eight page passage that detailed evidence that Saudis in the United States – Saudi government "spies," Graham called them – had provided financial and logistical support to [al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi] while they lived in Southern California.30

    Similarly the 9/11 Commission failed to deal with the information on an FBI "hijacker timeline" that al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi were met at the airport on their first arrival in the United States by Omar al-Bayoumi, the transmitter of the Saudi funds, whom Graham claimed was obviously "a low-ranking Saudi intelligence agent."31 The FBI findings were leaked in an early story in Newsweek:

    At the airport, they were swept up by a gregarious fellow Saudi, Omar al-Bayoumi, who had been living in the United States for several years. Al-Bayoumi drove the two men to San Diego, threw a welcoming party and arranged for the visitors to get an apartment next to his. He guaranteed the lease, and plunked down $1,550 in cash to cover the first two months' rent.32

    One month later, "In January 2003, Graham and the other members of the committee were 
the focus of a criminal investigation by the FBI into whether someone on the panel had leaked classified information."33

    The 9/11 Commission avoided this sensitive area. It cited the FBI Chronology a total of 52 times in its footnotes, for example at 493n55, concerning al-Mihdar’s travel from Yemen to the Malaysian meeting. But it suppressed the FBI’s report that al-Bayoumi met al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi on their arrival; and it substituted what Shenon calls an "improbable tale" supplied by al-Bayoumi himself: namely, that he had run into the two men two weeks later by accident "at a halal food restaurant" near Los Angeles.34

    It is clear that two members of the 9/11 Commission staff who redacted this part of the report – Dietrich Snell and Philip Zelikow – were concerned to tone down what junior staffers considered to be "explosive material" on the Saudis.35 Shenon tells how this section of the 9/11 report was rewritten by Snell and Zelikow, until the text "removed all of the most serious allegations against the Saudis."36

    But Snell and Zelikow may have been protecting the CIA as well as the Saudis. We have already noted how Lawrence Wright, looking at the extraordinary CIA record on withholding information about al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi, concluded, "It is also possible, as some FBI investigators suspect, the CIA was running a joint venture with Saudi intelligence."37

    Conclusion

    It is clear, as everyone who has studied these matters closely and impartially concurs, that there have been cover-ups of the CIA’s relationships to first Oswald and later al-Mihdar – cover-ups which in both cases have not yet been adequately resolved.

    A reasonable conclusion from the available evidence is that the cover-ups were in order to conceal prior CIA operational interest in the designated subjects, just as in the case of Ali Mohamed in the early 1990s. It could of course be a coincidence that people of operational interest to the CIA became designated subjects in the deep events of JFK and 9/11. Another, more disturbing possibility is that those responsible for these events knew of the CIA’s operational interest, and exploited it in such a way as to ensure that the government would be embarrassed into covering up what really happened on those days.

    A lot of books about 9/11, including my own, have focused on the roles played by Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld on that day. But it is clear that 9/11 involved a USG connection to at least one figure (Ali Mohamed) so sensitive that it had been covered up from the time of the Nosair murder in 1990 and the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. It is probable that Oswald’s covert USG connections also dated back to the time of his strange release from the U.S. Marine Corps in 1959, enabling him to travel to the Soviet Union.38

    In short there is a substratum of covert operations underlying both events that antedates the presidencies in which they occurred. Thus one should not expect the cover-up of 9/11 in the G.W. Bush administration to dissipate simply because the Democrats take over the White House, just as the Johnson administration’s cover-up of the Kennedy assassination did not dissipate with the election of Richard Nixon.39

    This is said not out of despair, but out of belief in the ultimate resilience and good sense of the American people. The analysis in this book is that America’s involvement in two disastrous wars – first Vietnam and later Iraq – was not an outcome of the people’s will, but rather in large part because of deep events that were used to manipulate that will. Thus this analysis is not an attack on America, but on that manipulative mindset that has twice succeeded in maneuvering America into war.

    This dominant mindset is not restricted to intelligence agencies, though it is largely rooted there. Over time it has spread into other parts of government, and has also corrupted large sections of the media and even universities. That the mindset is widespread does not however make it either omnipotent or invincible.

    It is important to identify the dominant mindset clearly, if we are ever going to displace it. It is important also to recognize that the dark topics discussed in this book are not representative of America as a whole. In the half century since the CIA’s first adventures in Burma and Laos, America has continued to be, as in the two centuries before it, a source of life-enhancing innovations, such as the computer and the internet.

    As Amy Chua has written in her book Day of Empire,

    If America can rediscover the path that has been the secret to its success since its founding and avoid the temptations of empire building, it could remain the world’s hyperpower in the decades to come – not a hyperpower of coercion and military force, but a hyperpower of opportunity, dynamism, and moral force.40

    I have tried to suggest in this book that the key to this rediscovery is the

    identification and displacement of the manipulative forces that have maneuvered America, almost unsuspectingly, into two unnecessary and disastrous wars.

    If there is any merit to my analysis, then, to isolate those forces, we must press for the truth about both the Kennedy assassination and 9/11.

    NOTES

    1 Transcript of Dallas Police Channel Two, 12:44 PM; cf. Channel One 12:45 PM,

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/; Warren Report 5, 17 Warren Commission Hearings 397, 23 Warren Commission Hearings 916.

    2 Clarke, Against All Enemies, 13-14. The list of 19 names, accepted without question by the 9/11 Commission Report, was given by the FBI to the press on September 14, 2001 (Daily Telegraph, September 15, 2001,

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/15/whunt15.xml).

    3 Transcript of Dallas Police Channel Two, 12:44 PM; cf. Channel One 12:45 PM,

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/; Warren Report 5, 17 Warren Commission Hearings 397.

    4 E.g. Dallas FBI Report from John Fain, May 12, 1960, 17 Warren Commission Hearings 704, NARA #157-10006-10213 ("Height: 5’10" Weight: 165 lbs." [inaccurate description supplied by Marguerite Oswald]); CIA HQ Cable DIR 74830 to Mexico City, 10 Oct 1963, NARA #104-10015-10048, reproduced in John Newman, Oswald and the CIA (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1995), 512 ("five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty five pounds").

    5 Fingerprint card dated "11-25-63," 17 Warren Commission Hearings 308.

    6 Warren Report 5, 144; Sylvia Meagher, Accessories After the Fact (Mary Ferrell Foundation Press, 2006), 10-13, 78n. After seeing Oswald twice on television, Brennan picked out Oswald in a second lineup (Warren Report, 143).

    7 Daily Telegraph, September 23, 2001,

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml.

    Cf. Guardian, September 21 2001,

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/21/afghanistan.september112 :" Abdulaziz

    Al-Omari has also come forward to say he was not on the flight from Boston that crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Centre. An electrical engineer who works in Saudi Arabia, Mr Al-Omari said he was a student in Denver during the mid-1990s, and that his passport and other papers were stolen in a burglary in the US five years ago. 
 `The name is my name and the birth date is the same as mine,’ he told Asharq al-Aswat, a London-based Arabic newspaper. `But I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Centre in New York.’"

    8 Daily Telegraph, September 23, 2001,

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml.

    9 On October 4, 2001, the FBI issued a press release showing what appeared to be photos from surveillance videotape of two hijackers, Mohammed Atta and Abdulaziz Al-Omari, entering Portland Jetport on the morning of September 11, 2001 (FBI Press Release, October 4, 2001,

    http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/100401picts.htm ). If valid, these would constitute evidence from the event itself. However the photos are anomalous, in that they show two time superimposed stamps, one showing 5:45, the other showing 5:53. The photos are not cited as evidence in the 9/11 Commission Report. On July 22, 2004, the date of the release of the 9/11 Commission Report, CNN aired what they said was surveillance videotape of two hijackers, Majed Moqed and Khalid al-Mihdar. entering "at one of the security screening points at Dulles International" (CNN, http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0407/22/lad.04.html ). The authenticity of the videotape has been challenged, however, because it lacks the time and date and location identification normally burned into a surveillance video image (Rowland Morgan and Ian Henshall, 9/11 Revealed: The Unanswered Questions [New York: Carroll and Graf, 2005], 117-19).

    10 I have argued that the conflicting messages were part of a so-called "marked card" or "barium meal" test to determine if and where leaks of sensitive information were occurring. This was a familiar technique, and was the responsibility of the CI/SIG or Counterintelligence Special Intelligence Group which drafted the two cables. See Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics II: The New Revelations in U.S. Government Files,1994-1999 (Ipswich, MA: Mary Ferrell Foundation Press, 2007), 17-18, 92; also Peter Dale Scott, "Oswald and the Hunt for Popov's Mole," The Fourth Decade, III, 3 (March 1996), 3;

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=519798.

    11 Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics II, 30-33.

    12 Jefferson Morley, Our Man in Mexico: Winston Scott and the Hidden History of the CIA (Lawrence, KA: University Press of Kansas, 2008), 196-98. See Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics II, 30-33.

    13 Lawrence Wright, The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 (New York: Knopf, 2006), 310.

    14 9/11 Commission Report, 502n44.

    15 Wright, The Looming Tower, 312, 313.

    16 Lawrence Wright, "The Agent," New Yorker, July 10 and 17, 2006, 68.

    17 Clarence M. Kelley, Kelley: The Story of an FBI Director (Kansas City: Andrews, McMeel, & Parker, 1987), 268.

    18 James Bamford, A Pretext for War: 9/11, Iraq, and the Abuse of America’s Intelligence Agencies (New York: Doubleday, 2004), 224.

    19 Wright, The Looming Tower, 329. In his New Yorker story (p. 70), Wright wrote that "By withholding the picture of Khallad [bin Attash]
the C.I.A. may in effect have allowed the September 11th plot to proceed."

    20 9/11 Commission Report, 271; Wright, The Looming Tower, 353-54.

    21 David Atlee Phillips, Nightwatch, 139; quoted in Morley, Our Man in Mexico, 184. Morley observes that in the 1970s Phillips offered a total of "four not entirely consistent versions of the story of Oswald’s visit to Mexico City."

    22 J. Cofer Black testimony before 9/11 Congressional Joint Inquiry, 107th Cong., 2nd Sess., July 24, 2003.

    23 Dale Watson testimony before Joint Inquiry, 107th Cong., 2nd Sess., September 26, 2002.

    24 Amy B. Zegart, Flying Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11(Princeton, NJ: Princeton UP, 2007), 117.

    25 Terry McDermott, Perfect Soldiers: The Hijackers: Who They Were, Why TheyDid It (New York: HarperCollins, 20050, 294n45; Philip Shenon, The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation (New York: Twelve/Hachette, 2008), 141.

    26 Morley, Our Man in Mexico, 7, 294.

    27 9/11 Commission Report, 267.

    28 Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics and the Death of JFK (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1998), 81-86; Morley, Our Man in Mexico, 170-77.

    29 Morley, Our Man in Mexico, 177.

    30 Shenon, The Commission, 50-51.

    31 Larisa Alexandrovna, "FBI documents contradict 9/11 Commission report," RawStory, February 28, 2008, http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_documents_contradict_Sept._11_Commission_0228.html (met at the airport); Shenon, The Commission, 52 (al-Bayoumi). Al-Bayoumi "apparently did work for Dallah Avco, an aviation-services company with extensive contracts with the Saudi Ministry of Defense and Aviation, headed by Prince Sultan, the father of the Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar" ("The Saudi Money Trail," Newsweek, December 2, 2002, http://www.newsweek.com/id/66665).

    32 "The Saudi Money Trail," Newsweek, December 2, 2002. The FBI "hijacker timeline" was released by the FBI on February 4, 2008. See Larisa Alexandrovna, "FBI documents contradict 9/11 Commission report, Rawstory.com, February 28, 2008,

    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_documents_contradict_Sept._11_Commission_0228.html.

    33 Shenon, The Commission, 54.

    34 9/11 Commission Report, 217; Shenon, The Commission, 52-53.

    35 Shenon, The Commission, 398.

    36 Shenon, The Commission, 398.

    37 Wright, The Looming Tower, 313. Looking at the same evidence, Christopher Ketcham has raised an alternative possibility, that "the CIA may have subcontracted to Mossad, given that the agency was both prohibited by law from conducting intelligence operations on U.S. soil, and lacked a pool of competent Arabic-fluent field officers. In such a scenario, the CIA would either have worked actively with the Israelis or quietly abetted an independent operation on U.S. soil
. When in the spring of 2002 the scenario of CIA's domestic subcontracting to foreign intelligence

    was posed to the veteran CIA/NSA intelligence operative, with whom I spoke extensively, the operative didn't reject it out of hand" (Christopher Ketcham, "Cheering Movers and Art Student Spies: What Did Israel Know in Advance of the 9/11 Attacks?" CounterPunch, February 7, 2007,

    http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=73&contentid=4253&page=2 ).

    38 Oswald requested a dependency discharge from the Marines in August 1959, "on the ground that his mother needed his support" (Warren Report, 688). Accordingly Marine Lt. A.G. Ayers, Jr. signed a document for Oswald’s release to inactive duty on September 11, 1959 (19 WH 679, cf. 17 WH 762) "by reason of hardship (19 WH 678). However Lt. Ayers should have known that Oswald had no intention of staying in Texas to support his mother; he had already, on September 4, 1959, signed an affidavit in support of Oswald’s passport application "to attend the College of A. Schweitzer, Chur, Switzerland and the Univ of Turku, Turku, Finland" (22 WH 77-79). (It is a sign of some covert intrigue that the language of instruction at the University of Turku was Finnish, a language Oswald did not know.)

    39 A significant symptom of this enduring substratum has been the Bush Administration’s protection of Samuel Berger, Clinton’s national security advisor. Berger pleaded guilty in April 2005 to having stolen 9/11 documents from the National Archives (Shenon, The Commission, 414). A condition of his plea bargain was to submit to a Justice Department polygraph test, to determine what documents had been stolen. Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, a long-time critic of CIA operations in Afghanistan, revealed to the House in February 2008 that he had written to the Bush Justice Department, demanding that it administer the polygraph test, and that the Justice Department had rejected his demand (Congressional Record, February 26, 2008, House, pp. H1065-H1072). We have already seen that Berger when in office was receiving regular reports from the CIA about the presence of al-Mihdar and al-Hamzi at the Kuala Lumpur meeting (Zegart, Flying Blind, 117). It is possible that these were the reports he was stealing from the Archives, and that the Justice Department refusal to administer the polygraph test is part of a cover-up to protect the CIA’s relationship to the two Saudis.

    40 Amy Chua, Day of Empire: How Hyperpowers Rise to Global Dominance – and Why They Fall (New York: Doubleday, 2007), 342.

    Peter Dale Scott, a former Canadian diplomat and professor at the University of California, Berkeley, is the author of the forthcoming The War Conspiracy: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War, due in August 2008. This previously unpublished essay is the concluding section of the new book, which can be ordered from the Mary Ferrell Foundation Press by clicking here at http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/MFF_Store. His website is http://www.peterdalescott.net.


    Peter Dale Scott is a frequent contributor to Global Research.  Global Research Articles by Peter Dale Scott
    joeb
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    Posts: 3,194

        09/25/08 at 11:59 PM
    Reply with quote#23

    Jesse C. Trentadue (#4961)
    8 East Broadway, Suite 200
    Salt Lake City, UT 84111
    Telephone: (801) 532-7300
    Facsimile: (801) 532-7355
    jesse32@sautah.com
    Pro Se Plaintiff
    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    FOR THE DISTRICT OF UTAH, CENTRAL DIVISION
    JESSE C. TRENTADUE,
    Plaintiff,
    vs.
    FEDERAL BUREAU OF
    INVESTIGATION and FEDERAL
    BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION’S
    OKLAHOMA CITY FIELD OFFICE ,
    Defendants.
    ::::::::::::::::
    MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF
    MOTION TO CONDUCT
    DISCOVERY
    Case No.: 2:04 CV 00772 DAK
    Judge Dale A. Kimball
    Magistrate David Nuffer
    Plaintiff hereby submits this Memorandum in support of his Motion to Conduct
    Discovery, Doc. No. 97.
    2
    ANALYSIS OF FBI DEFENDANTS’ RESPONSE
    Plaintiff has previously submitted a Memorandum detailing FBI Defendants’ bad
    faith in responding to the Court’s Order of May 5, 2005. (Doc. No. 59.) But part of that
    response bears repeating in conjunction with the Court’s consideration of this pending
    Motion to depose Terry Lynn Nichols and David Paul Hammer and to videotape those
    depositions. Specifically, Plaintiff wishes to again call to the Court’s attention FBI
    teletypes dated April 25, 2995 and August 16, 1995, attached hereto as, respectively,
    Exhibits 1 and 2.
    Exhibit 1 is an April 25, 1995 teletype from the FBI Little Rock, Arkansas field
    office to Director Louie Freeh. The subject of this teletype is an undercover FBI
    operative who had infiltrated various militia movements, including the Michigan Militia,
    “Constitution Rangers” and the “Arizona Patriots.” This undercover operative is alleged
    to be knowledgeable about the identities of various members of these groups associated
    with “Timothy Jack McVeigh.”
    This teletype is dated within a week following the Murrah Building bombing. It is
    the oldest document FBI Defendants produced to Plaintiff. In other words, even though
    there was an undercover operative involved with McVeigh and members of various
    Montgomery,
    militia groups who aided and supported McVeigh, the FBI failed to produce any records
    older than this teletype!
    FBI Defendants would have the Court believe that there are no earlier records, but
    that in and of itself is incredible since no one would believe that this undercover
    investigation did not predate the bombing. Furthermore, according to this document the
    undercover operative, an individual whose name has been redacted, is discussing
    someone who bears “a close resemblance to unknown suspect no. 2 [John Doe 2].”
    Equally incredible is that an FBI agent is ordered to interview this informant, including a
    “detailed debriefing to be conducted by FBI at Montgomery, Alabama”1 yet, among all
    the documents produced, there is not one FD-302 report of an interview with this or any
    other informant.
    Exhibit 2 is an August 16, 1995, teletype from the FBI’s Albuquerque field office
    to Director Louie Freeh concerning an informant who is reporting that an individual
    whose name has been redacted “may have assisted McVeigh in the Oklahoma bombing.”
    This document likewise refers to the fact that this person apparently frequents Elohim
    4
    City and is very knowledgeable with respect to explosives, but as is typical for FBI
    Defendants, there is no FD-302 produced of any interview with this informant.
    These Exhibits clearly document that FBI Defendants had infiltrated, through a
    number of informants, the bombing conspiracy. That there were others involved in this
    conspiracy besides McVeigh and Nichols is clearly set forth in the Declarations of Terry
    Lynn Nichols, and David Paul Hammer. Nichols identifies in his Declaration
    individuals who he now suspects were FBI operatives involved in this failed sting
    operation. It is Plaintiff’s belief that if deposed, Nichols and Hammer could provide
    valuable information related not only to the Oklahoma City bombing but, more
    importantly, to FBI Defendants’ bad faith response to Plaintiff’s FOIA requests and this
    Court’s Order of May 5, 2005.
    THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE CASE FOR DISCOVERY
    Admittedly, discovery is not a common litigation tool employed in a FOIA suit.
    Nevertheless, discovery is appropriate in a FOIA case when there is reason to believe, as
    in this case, that the agency is either withholding records or did not conduct an adequate
    search for the materials. See Information Acquisition Corp. v. Dept. of Justice, 444
    F.Supp. 458 (D.C. 1978). See also Murphy v. Fed Bureau of Investigation, 490 F.Supp.
    1134 (D.C. 1980); Giza v. Sec’y of Health, Education and Welfare, 628 F.2d 748, 751 (lst
    5
    Cir. 1980); Niren v. INS, 103 F.R.D. 10 (D. Or. 1984); Reisberg v. Dept. of Justice, 543
    F.2d 308 (D.C. Cir. 1976). Given FBI Defendants’ obvious failure to comply in good
    faith with their obligations under FOIA and this Court’s Order, Plaintiff respectfully
    submits that he should be allowed to take the depositions of Terry Nichols and David Paul
    Hammer, and to videotape those depositions.
    DATED this 16th day of February, 2007.
    /s/ Jesse C. Trentadue
    Jesse C. Trentadue
    joeb
    Registered: 11/14/05
    Posts: 3,194

        09/26/08 at 10:35 PM
    Reply with quote#24

    2 reads about the taxpayer funded FBI  agents who created the Oklahoma City bombing

    1st read

    Utah lawyer can question, videotape Terry Nichols
    By Pamela Manson
    The Associated Press
     09/26/2008

     A judge has reaffirmed an order that a Utah attorney can conduct taped depositions of Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Nichols and a federal death-row inmate.
        Attorney Jesse Trentadue says the two prisoners have information about the 1995 death of his brother, who he believes was murdered in a federal prison after guards mistook him for an accomplice in the bombing.
        Kenneth Trentadue was found hanged in his cell in August 1995 at a federal prison in Oklahoma City, where he was being held on an alleged parole violation.
        Although the death was ruled a suicide, Trentadue family members think Kenneth died during an interrogation that got out of hand. To support that theory, Jesse Trentadue has filed three Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits seeking information on the bombing and the FBI's alleged withholding of relevant documents he has requested.
        In September 2007, U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball gave him the go-ahead to depose Nichols and David Paul Hammer, who is on death row at the federal penitentiary at Terre Haute, Ind. The judge said information from the two men might help Trentadue better identify the existence of other records pertaining to his FOIA requests.
        Lawyers for the FBI asked Kimball to reconsider his ruling, contending that judges in FOIA cases lack the authority to order
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    depositions and that a video recording would pose a threat to prison security.
        Kimball rejected those arguments, but on Thursday did limit the use of video recording equipment to the rooms where the depositions are taken.
        Both inmates already have supplied Trentadue with written affidavits concerning Timothy McVeigh, who carried out the bombing and was executed in 2001.
        Nichols - who is serving a life sentence at the U.S. Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence, Colo. - claims a high-ranking FBI official "apparently" was directing McVeigh in the plot. Both Nichols and Hammer, who says he had lengthy conversations with McVeigh while the two were both housed at the Terre Haute facility, say McVeigh claimed to be an undercover operative for the military.
        The FBI has denied any role in the bombing.

    2nd read
    February 23, 2007 at 12:29:46
    http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/genera_j_m__ber_070222_terry_nichols_allege.htm

    Terry Nichols Alleges FBI Played Role In Oklahoma City Bombing

    by J.M. Berger

     

    Terry Nichols alleged in an affidavit filed Feb. 16 that Deputy FBI Director Larry Potts was involved in plotting the Oklahaoma City Bombing along with convicted bomber Timothy McVeigh.

    Potts denied the allegation in published reports this week.


    The full text of the affidavit is available here. Please credit and link INTELWIRE.com when reporting from these documents.

    "From the outset, I want to acknowledge my poor judgment and culpability in having assisted Timothy McVeigh," wrote Nichols.

    In the affidavit, Nichols admitted helping McVeigh build a truck bomb, but said the bomb he helped build was different from the bomb McVeigh described in interviews prior to his execution.

    Nichols denied any connection between the Oklahoma City bombing and his frequent visits to the Philippines. Nichols activities in that country have long been the subject of speculation, because the timing and location of his visits coincided with visits to the country by World Trade Center Bomber Ramzi Yousef (INTELWIRE analysis).

    Nichols named gun dealer Roger Moore and Potts as "co-conspirators" in the bombing plot. Nichols has named Moore as a co-conspirator in the past.

    "In December of 1992, Timothy McVeigh told me that while he was serving in the U.S. Army, he had been recruited to carry out undercover missions," Nichols wrote. "McVeigh did not say who had recruited him or specify the nature of his mission. McVeigh did say, however, that he was to begin making contacts with a 'network' of people after the first of the year."

    The network was located "down south," Nichols wrote. Nichols claimed McVeigh threatened him and his family if Nichols did not cooperate in the bombing conspiracy. He claimed McVeigh identified Potts in "an accidental slip of the tongue."

    Potts told the Oklahoman newspaper the allegations were "just nonsense and ridiculous." No further documentation was offered as part of the filing which would support the allegations.

    Another affidavit alleging flaws in the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing was given by David Paul Hammer, who shared a cell with McVeigh prior to McVeigh's execution.

    The full text of that affidavit is available here.

    The affidavits were filed as part of a lawsuit filed by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue.

    Trentadue, a Salt Lake City attorney, has been involved in litigation against the U.S. government since the death of his brother, Kenneth Trentadue, in federal custody on Aug. 21, 1995.

    Kenneth Trentadue's death was initially declared a suicide by prison officials, but the family discovered signs of numerous injuries when preparing him for burial. The family was awarded more than $1 million after winning a wrongful death suit against the government.

    Trentadue's legal battle has resulted in the release of dozens of pages of previously withheld FBI documents concerning the bombing. Those documents are available here.
    INTELWIRE has also obtained numerous documents directly and indirectly related to the bombing and to alleged additional conspirators in the bombing, as well as documents related to Trentadue's court case. Those documents include the following:

    # State Dept. FOIA: Nichols-Philippines
    # Nichols: I Have New OKC Evidence
    # Nichols Affidavit and Letter
    # Full Text: Rohrabacher OKC Report
    # Informant Report: McVeigh-Strassmeir Call
    # FBI Interrogation: Andreas Strassmeir
    # 1991 Memo: 'Turner Diaries' Warning

    # Zawahiri Statement On OKC Bombing
    # Documents: Aryan Republican Army

     

    http://intelwire.egoplex.com/

    J.M. Berger is a freelance reporter, researcher and producer with experience in print, television, radio and film. He also runs the terrorism Web site INTELWIRE.com (http://intelwire.egoplex.com).
    joeb
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        10/19/08 at 03:12 PM
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    3 reads about FBI  agents creating terror..................
    From: Jesse Trentadue
    Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:16 AM
    To: Jesse Trentadue
    Subject: NEW STORIES

    http://riseuprochester.org/2008/10/17/jesse-trentadues-quest-for-truth/
     
     
    http://www.nopc.info/forum/showthread.php?t=32286
     
     
    Jesse Trentadue
    Attorney at Law
    Suitter Axland, PLLC
    8 East Broadway, Suite 200
    Salt Lake City, UT 84111
    Telephone: 801/532.7300
    Fax: 801/532.7355
    jesse32@sautah.com

    Jesse Trentadue’s Quest for Truth
    17 October 2008



    October 17, 2008

    New developments in the near fourteen year quest to determine the actual truth behind the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing can be attributed to the tireless work of attorney, Jesse Trentadue. Trentadue, a former Marine, began his personal mission in an attempt to uncover the cause of his brother’s death. Jesse’s brother Kenny Trentadue was murdered, or rather, “suicided” in a federal penitentiary under alarmingly mysterious circumstances, after he was mistaken for Richard Guthrie, a member of the Aryan Republican Army and Midwest Bank Robbers, whose exact role in the Oklahoma City bombing is still fully unknown. Kenny Trentadue was another forgotten victim of the OKBOMB, as the FBI liked to call it. Jesse Trentadue, since then, has become the legal and informational vanguard for other victims of the bombings, such as Jannie Coverdale, w

    ho lost her two young grandsons in the blast, and has herself fought the FBI, DOJ and almost every other federal agency you can think of to find the truth. Trentadue has been instrumental in having unreleased documents made public through the eroding Freedom of Information Act,

    as well as other litigious methods. His work is ceaseless and justifiably driven. A few of the more astounding recent breakthroughs that Trentadue has made involve the CIA, FBI and BOP (Bureau of Prisons). Talk about alphabet soup. This kind is poison.

    On September 25, 2008 Trentadue won a ruling, which he had sought for over a year and a half to depose, on video, federal inmates David Paul Hammer and Terry Nichols. Nichols, who was convicted and sentenced to life in prison for his still unknown role in the bombing, says he is ready to tell all. Yet, the DOJ, FBI and BOP have made this task almost impossible, claiming that such as deposition would be detrimental to prison security.
    Picture of the Murrah Federal Building on May 19, 1995.

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    This is also the claim made by these agencies about deposing Hammer. Hammer, who is currently on Death Row in Terre Haute, Indiana, was housed in a cell next to the elusive and mysterious Timothy McVeigh for the last couple years of McVeigh’s life. Hammer, who wrote the book Secrets Worth Dying For, was the recipient of some of McVeigh’s “final” confessions. These include his corroborated claims of being an agent of the government during the planning and execution of the bombing. Secrets Worth Dying for is one of the most chilling books on OKC and one which is worth reading for anyone with an interest in this case. Hammer recently told me that a new edition of the book will be released on April 19, 2009 and will contain further verified information regarding the exact role of Timothy “Lone Truck Bomber” McVeigh. Trentadue finally won his suit to depose these men on video, says that he believes the government will appeal this ruling. What do they have to hide?

    On October 10, 2008, Trentadue, an unbelievably brave man, filed a complaint with the US district court of Utah, against the CIA, claiming that since December of 2006, the CIA has continuously withheld information which they were compelled by law, via the FOIA, to release to Trentadue. Information which was requested but which has to this date, been withheld concern the CIA’s investigation and/or involvement in OKC, information regarding German National Andreas Strassmier’s role as an informant/ agent in the bombing, and the nature of his exact relationship with McVeigh and the Aryan Republican Army/ Midwest bank robbers. The difficulty in attaining this protected information was also previously encountered by several others, including McVeigh and Nichols own defense attorneys. Yet, Trentadue is not trying to defend these men or their actions. He is trying to find out the truth of his brothers gruesome murder. Trentadue has demanded in his filing that all information concerning “all investigations into the CIA’s role, involvement with or connection to the Murrah Building Bombing whether through employees, informants, operatives or other means” be turned over ASAP. He also has been fighting to obtain similar records from the FBI, and ATF. His last letter, written to officials at the CIA, written March 2008 concluded with the line “I hope there will be no need for me to sue in order to obtain these records.” This should be interesting, to say the least.

    Finally, on October 12, 2008 Trentadue filed another Freedom of Information Act to obtain records from the FBI. He has now requested copies of all surveillance video tapes which are related to OKC, including all surveillance tapes from in and around the Murrah building from the dates of April 15- April 19, which include the interior and exterior cameras of the Regency Apartments, located across from the Murrah, security camera on the west side of the Murrah and one on the south of the Journal Records building. (Anyone having 9/11 Pentagon dĂ©jĂ  vous?) Included in these OKC surveillance video tapes is one which is mentioned in a Secret Service memo. It is stated in this memo that one of these videos contained: [s]ecurity video tapes from the area [that] show the [Ryder] truck detonation 3 minutes and 6 seconds after the SUSPECTS exited the truck.” Unless the Secret Service is ill informed on the use of grammar, the word SUSPECTS clearly implies a massive cover-up or worse. Trentadue is also requesting all reports which reference the FBI’s seizure of these tapes and the chain of possession with which they were handled in their eventual disappearance from the FBI’s (and others) files. Furthermore, Trentadue is asking for all video tape and records which can illuminate the truck, known to be at the site of the bombing, which was traveling behind McVeigh when he was arrested by Trooper Charlie Hangar in Perry, Oklahoma, an hour after the blast. Hangar had dashboard video equipment in his patrol car, but somehow this was mysteriously turned off until after Hangar had actually arrested McVeigh.

    We wish Trentadue the best of luck. We hope he knows that all OKC researchers, as well as anyone interested in uncovering these types of governmental abuses, are holding their breaths while they wait for the eventual release of these documents and tapes. God Speed, Jesse Trentadue.


    Wendy S. Painting recently finished a Masters degree from the State University of New York and is currently pursuing a PhD. She is working on a book about the Oklahoma City bombing.


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